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Cuddles
17th Aug 2002, 15:29
In Loaded Magazine (!) there is an advert for ATCOs among erm, premium rate telephone numbers, nefarious websites, opiate detoxification treatments, personal enhancement(!), and certain horticultural products and services.

Have a look on the Intranet for the apology from Recruitment. Ad is towards the back of this months edition of aforementioned magazine.

Many chuckles up here, generally of disbelief rather than genuine amusement.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Still, if it gives someone the idea of applying....

Loki
17th Aug 2002, 15:33
The selection process will be amusing when "Loaded" readers start to apply!

danceswithsheep
17th Aug 2002, 19:11
Does this mean we can start charging £1.50 a min for our services!!!!!!!!!! I lay it on thick for nothing to the ladies at the moment, but would I feel dirty charging for it????? NO

roger
17th Aug 2002, 20:09
Can't see the problem my-self.
I wouldn't care if it was in Monkey Spanker weekly, if a person applies, takes the tests and passes why would he/she be any worse than somebody that reads The Times
What should it matter what some-one reads or what they look like if they can do the job?
Thanks for listening
roger

BryanC123
17th Aug 2002, 21:33
Roger I agree but maybe thats because i am one of the readers who filled in an application. Still waiting to hear so maybe thats not such a good sign. Well as the saying goes "If you dont buy a ticket you cant win the lottery"



Waiting in hope!!!!!:(

C U JIMMY
17th Aug 2002, 22:30
Don't know about you chaps, but I'd sooner work with someone who reads Loaded and has a bit of a sense of humour, rather than someone who reads "Aircraft Illustrated" or some such other spotter rag!!!!
W**ker or Spotter-your choice!!!!!!!:D :D :D :D ;)

Data Dad
18th Aug 2002, 00:18
But even more mind boggling is the statement on the front cover of the aforementioned magazine.....

"For men who should know better.."

sums it up nicely :D :D :D

DD

Aluminium Importer
18th Aug 2002, 00:30
Data Dad,

"But even more mind boggling is the statement on the front cover of the aforementioned magazine..... 'For men who should know better..'"

And slightly further down the front cover:

UNLIMITED SEX!
DRINKING! STUPIDITY!
17 pages of brainless fun!

and:

Press her hot buttons! p60


sums it up even more nicely :D :D :D


Of course, I had to borrow a "friend's" copy to confirm this information! :D

professor yaffle
18th Aug 2002, 02:26
course you did aluminium importer!!!!

mind you a few years ago nats adverised in cosmo and marie claire!!

prof

danceswithsheep
18th Aug 2002, 09:27
They might as well start in The Early Learning Centre, as they are the only age group willing to take the pay deal. I have to agree with earlier comments though. This is a job where a broad spectrum of personality types makes the day go a lot quicker than 40 spotters stareing across at Prestwick through the coffee lounge window ( if you can see past the fe!king great big fridge).
Ok, marie clare goes beyond the line but come on,who here has not had a laugh at Loaded or such like in the past?

1261
18th Aug 2002, 11:25
Does that mean the you read Loaded, Cuddles????

Minesapint
18th Aug 2002, 14:35
I am quite sure that I know the guys that responded to the cosmo and marie clair adverts. They work in TC!!!!!;)

Cuddles
18th Aug 2002, 16:55
1261

Only when there is amusement to be had from the unfortunate positioning of a NATS recruitment advert:p

Probably a cunning plan to up their sales, last I heard they weren't doing very well.... should push the circulation up by 2 -300.

AI

UNLIMITED SEX!
DRINKING! STUPIDITY!
17 pages of brainless fun!

Now that WOULD have made a good advert for wannabe ATCOS.:D

BryanC123
18th Aug 2002, 17:10
Personally I think loaded was a great idea as I have personally just applied and somehow I dont think I would have known of the recent vacancies if the advert had been placed in your top aircraft mags. Personally its a job for me and not a hobby but each to there own.

Also, anyone got any idea how long you have to wait for a reply as the longer time goes on the more I think that application is now filed under B for BIN.

Nogbad the Bad
18th Aug 2002, 18:11
C U Jimmy.........

I am SO glad that everyone read your post with the contempt it deserves !!!!

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Loki
18th Aug 2002, 18:27
Perhaps Nats should consider advertising in "Psychics Weekly"

ive348
18th Aug 2002, 21:32
C U Jimmy

I happen to read Loaded while I'm spotting. I think the only w**ker here is you

foo fighting
18th Aug 2002, 23:48
Gotta stick up for C U Jimmy

Adverts in Loaded - great - about time someone in recruitment finally got it right in aiming at different sectors of the populace other than the "aviation enthusiast".

Every spotter on my course got chopped because their infinite knowledge of all things ppl, latest BA737 etc meant eff all, they couldn't do the job and were only there because they couldn't fly for BA or the RAF.

Sure that will set off a little abuse, I'll wait for it while I browse through Cosmo on my next night shift in TC.



:D

C U JIMMY
19th Aug 2002, 01:17
Sorry Chaps, think you took my post the wrong way.

There's nothing wrong with spotters, there's nothing wrong with Loaded readers. The point I was trying to make was that it does us good to have abroad mix of people.

I was;

(a) trying to be funny, obviously some have had a sense of humour failure
(b) pointing out that, as has been evidenced by previous posts, you don't just want people who read what have been in the past termed as "suitable" publications.
We all know that it takes all sorts to do our job, so why limit it to Flight readers, or Gruniard readers?

Nought wrong with adverts in Loaded, Marie Claire, Razzle, whatever, as long as we start getting more quality applicants.

I thought it was a fair point
Sorry for any offence caused

Barnaby the Bear
19th Aug 2002, 08:37
I prefer FHM, and noticed an advert in there too.
I say good one. So what if it is a magazine full of Chuckle bumps of delight.
I know ladies read it almost as much as blokes shouldn't be too one sided.
As for the quality of applicant. I bet 99% of people that read the forum have bought, read or glanced at FHM, loaded, Big & Bouncy....... Ok maybe not the last one......much!!!!:D

roger
19th Aug 2002, 11:26
further to my last...after chatting to people in work I think the problem was not the fact it was in loaded, but where in the mag it was placed. ie just below were links to stickitupthere.com(don't bother it's crap!) and several ads trying to sell top class skunk seeds and heroin poppy seeds...
Perhaps if it were next to pornalikes it wouldn't be as offensive and more people would see it?(tongue in cheek before anyone starts)
roger

ive348
19th Aug 2002, 13:12
Well, it looks like I failed my humor test C U J. No hard feelings I hope?

Barry Beaver
19th Aug 2002, 16:57
I would feel better if our future students read Loaded rather than the current crop that applied after reading the Daily Mail.

All those lies from 'The Mail' obviously don't help make good ATCO's.

BryanC123
19th Aug 2002, 18:39
The magazine that adverts are advertised in doesnt matter. At the end of the day its the quality of the applicant that matters not the mag they read. Although being a bloke i think it would look strange on my application...............

"So where did you hear about this position"

answer

"Vogue"......................:D :D :D

Nogbad the Bad
20th Aug 2002, 09:52
Yep.........looks like I failed your test too C U JImmy........owe you a pint M8.

As for foo fighting......well.........:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

eastern wiseguy
20th Aug 2002, 11:58
I think it is a good idea to widen the area for potential students.The whole structure of the job has changed since I joined.The days of the ATCO being a demobbed wireless operator /air gunner(male probably conservative,big and small c ) are behind us and I for one am pleased to see that someone somewhere has recognised the fact that knowing a 737-400 has more doors than a 737-200 is not exactly the sort of "qualification"needed to get through a course and validate.We want to attract people who are capable and by recognising the fact that capable people can and do read ALL sorts of publications is a good start.In the same magazine there was an advert for both the Royal Navy and the Royal Marines .I suspect that those organisations have also arrived at the same conclusion.Quality exists all over the place a little thinking outside of the box is a good idea.

Flybywyre
20th Aug 2002, 20:42
Great place to put the advert.............

While I was looking for it I found LOTS of web sites I haven't been on yet...................



:D :D :D

Goldfish Watcher
20th Aug 2002, 22:23
The emailed 'apology' (which the manager of recruitment didn't even have the decency to send personally) seemed to suggest that it was someone in recruitment who was offended by the advert.

Personally, I think anyone who found it offensive is rather narrow minded and prejudiced.

Certainly didn't offend me - they can write their adverts on the walls of public toilets for all I care, as long as we get the right people through the system.

2 sheds
22nd Aug 2002, 20:14
....so how did whoever was offended by it know about the advert?
B****y pathetic, some nob in NATS thinking he had to apologise to all the staff.

AREA52
22nd Aug 2002, 21:12
In light of the subsequent dialogue.

Has anyone spared a thought for the poor readers of loaded, who have had their publications image tarnished by the advert of a "now" cheap and nasty company called NATS,how could they!!!!!

The magazine's reputation will never be the same again.

Disgusting behaviour!

AREA 52:D