Need to fly a puppy to Jersey

[Jonzarno]

No, I’m not joking! :)

A family friend who lives in Jersey needs to transport a puppy from Yorkshire to Jersey and is happy to cover the cost of doing this.

The dog can be delivered to an address on the mainland, the problem is the sea crossing as the ferries aren’t running.

Is there anyone with a commercial licence (so that the costs can be paid) that could take this on?

I’d be grateful for a PM or email if anyone could do this or knows someone that can.

Many thanks!!

[LS737]

I'm pretty sure RVL Group at East Mids operates EMA-JER quite regularly, although I'm not sure if they do pets!

[Pugilistic Animus]

When I first saw this thread I thought it meant New Jersey because the natives say Jersey instead of New Jersey. :}

[Jonzarno]

When I first saw this thread I thought it meant New Jersey because the natives say Jersey instead of New Jersey. :}

If I meant dat ida wrote Joisey.......... :p

[Jonzarno]

I'm pretty sure RVL Group at East Mids operates EMA-JER quite regularly, although I'm not sure if they do pets!

Thanks, much appreciated!

[sixfootfive]

2Excel/Broadsword at Doncaster will do it for you.

[justasmallfire]

General aviation is also not allowed at the moment.Currently as far as Im aware only two flights operating West Atlantic for cargo(once daily) and BlueIslands 3x a week to Southampton.BlueIslands do not allow animal cargo sorry.
Things should be changing over next week or two,

[ChickenHouse]

Carrying your own puppy is a grey area of animal transport, transporting a strangers puppy definitely is animal transport and needs the appropriate permits and licenses ... Transport Certificate, Certificate of Competency, IATA LAR Live Animal Rules Certificate, Dangerous Goods Certificate (for the nail gun you have to carry in case), AOC etceteras are a long list of papers and licenses you will need to do.

[MrAverage]

Forgive my ignorance but isn't an AOC required if receiving payment of any kind?

[highflyer40]

General aviation is also not allowed at the moment.Currently as far as Im aware only two flights operating West Atlantic for cargo(once daily) and BlueIslands 3x a week to Southampton.BlueIslands do not allow animal cargo sorry.
Things should be changing over next week or two,

looking at flight radar yesterday there were hundreds of GA flights including dozens of gliders.

[treadigraph]

looking at flight radar yesterday there were hundreds of GA flights including dozens of gliders.

Not flying from Jersey though...

[ChickenHouse]

Forgive my ignorance but isn't an AOC required if receiving payment of any kind?
Including commercial clearance to carry exactly that breed ... transport permit is restricted to named animals and breeds, can't carry dogs on Leicester sheep permit.

[justasmallfire]

Not into Jersey, we have to get prior permission to leave the island from Customs before travelling.Travel allowed for lifeline flights https://www.gov.je/news/2020/pages/GovernmentBlueIslands.aspx
Notams still in place. Im operating as pilot on these.

[TFE731]

General aviation is also not allowed at the moment.Currently as far as Im aware only two flights operating West Atlantic for cargo(once daily) and BlueIslands 3x a week to Southampton.BlueIslands do not allow animal cargo sorry.
Things should be changing over next week or two,

West Atlantic is licensed to carry live animals and there would be room in the lower holds on a Jersey run. However, that flight is fully contracted to Royal Mail so I'm not sure if they could take an extra charter on it. It wouldn't harm to phone them and ask.

[ChickenHouse]

West Atlantic is licensed to carry live animals and there would be room in the lower holds on a Jersey run. However, that flight is fully contracted to Royal Mail so I'm not sure if they could take an extra charter on it. It wouldn't harm to phone them and ask.
Put a stamp on the puppy and throw it in the Royal Mail box?

[Hot 'n' High]

........ transport permit is restricted to named animals and breeds, can't carry dogs on Leicester sheep permit.

Wrong, ChickenHouse! :=

If it's a Collie you can! How else do you make sure the sheep stay seated? They'd run rings round the Cabin Crew and send them mad if no dog were allowed on board during the flight to keep order!!! :p

Erm, is "lockdown" starting to get to H 'n' H? :\

[Buter]

I did this many years ago when I lived in Jersey. The (now) ex decided she had to have a Bernese mountain dog and we picked it up in Land's End. We just asked someone at the Aero Club if they wanted to to fly us over if we paid for the gas. Perfectly legal.

Ironically, I found this quite useful and it prompted me to get my license.

The pilot was Chris Wench, Jersey aviation legend.

Good luck!

B

[Jonzarno]

Now sorted. Thanks all!

[Pontius Navigator]

Amazing what you learn. Years ago I took a puppy in a cage Inverness to Heathrow. Never even thought of rules. She went checked baggage, no cost, picked her up at Heathrow and handed to new owners.

[Journey Man]

I did this many years ago when I lived in Jersey. The (now) ex decided she had to have a Bernese mountain dog and we picked it up in Land's End. We just asked someone at the Aero Club if they wanted to to fly us over if we paid for the gas. Perfectly legal.

Ironically, I found this quite useful and it prompted me to get my license.

The pilot was Chris Wench, Jersey aviation legend.

Good luck!

B

As has been pointed out, there’s more to it - however I’ll agree that the majority of animals brought into the island are through the aero club. I wonder how often the immigration authorities are called up there to meet these flights? For a commercial charter flight, it’s every time...

[Buter]

Why would immigration meet a private flight from the UK?

B

[eckhard]

I did this many years ago when I lived in Jersey. The (now) ex decided she had to have a Bernese mountain dog and we picked it up in Land's End. We just asked someone at the Aero Club if they wanted to to fly us over if we paid for the gas. Perfectly legal.

Ironically, I found this quite useful and it prompted me to get my license.

The pilot was Chris Wench, Jersey aviation legend.

Good luck!

B

If you mean Chris Winch, I would agree; great pilot and all-round good egg, sadly retired now I think.

[36050100]

The EU country flag carrier I used to fly for allowed for small (can't remember how it was defined) cats and dogs to fly as "pets in cabin" with their (presumably) owners. Cats were always in a pet carrier; occasionally so were dogs but we carried a fair few dogs who were simply on a lead. This was in European shorthaul.

[md 600 driver]

Why would immigration meet a private flight from the UK?

B
proberbly to check your passport and to see if your carrying any contraband

[flash8]

The EU country flag carrier I used to fly for allowed for small (can't remember how it was defined) cats and dogs to fly as "pets in cabin" with their (presumably) owners. Cats were always in a pet carrier; occasionally so were dogs but we carried a fair few dogs who were simply on a lead. This was in European shorthaul.
Young Lady once bought her cat via Easy to Liverpool back in the early 00's, from I think Paris, when she arrived the sh*t hit the fan. Her (reasonably acceptable in my opinion) excuse was that she was used to doing this around Europe, and didn't think the UK would be the exception (strict quarantine rules) and they were quite happy to let her board with catty. Oh how she threw a tantrum. This was filmed I think and shown on BBC? as part of some Easy documentary series.

[Slaine]

Please ensure the puppy has appropriate hearing protection

[meleagertoo]

And is properly briefed and wearing a flourescent jerkin!

[ChickenHouse]

Wrong, ChickenHouse! :=

If it's a Collie you can! How else do you make sure the sheep stay seated? They'd run rings round the Cabin Crew and send them mad if no dog were allowed on board during the flight to keep order!!! :p

Erm, is "lockdown" starting to get to H 'n' H? :\
You don't need the dog, see i.e. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO-HRqIVvic (sorry, only available in German, but a nice example of European BS). German NAA LBA goes Monty Python?

[Jonzarno]

You don't need the dog, see i.e. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO-HRqIVvic (sorry, only available in German, but a nice example of European BS). German NAA LBA goes Monty Python?

No need to bother with all that: just book the flight on Wingly........ :p

[Forfoxake]

Is the puppy called Dominic? ;)

[welkyboy]

If you mean Chris Winch, I would agree; great pilot and all-round good egg, sadly retired now I think.
Thanks for the complement but not deserved. I might have retired commercially but still have a valid licence(after 58years!)

[eckhard]

Yay, Welkyboy! Good to hear from you. Hope you and the other “Jersey Boys” are ok. Happy memories of flying with you all in the CJ and then a fine meal in the “Boathouse” afterwards.
Take care,
Eckhard
(Licensed for a mere 48 years!)

[ETOPS]

Four days and 32 posts and no photo of the pooch?

[meleagertoo]

Young Lady once bought her cat via Easy to Liverpool back in the early 00's, from I think Paris, when she arrived the sh*t hit the fan. Her (reasonably acceptable in my opinion) excuse was that she was used to doing this around Europe, and didn't think the UK would be the exception (strict quarantine rules) and they were quite happy to let her board with catty. Oh how she threw a tantrum. This was filmed I think and shown on BBC? as part of some Easy documentary series.
Doubt it was Easy.
Easyjet don't carry animals. Well, not the four legged variety, anyhoo.
(Guide dogs excepted)