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old & Tired
13th Aug 2002, 19:11
I had an interesting conversation with an Avgas sales man yesterday. Apparently any airfield even the small ones buying avgas from one of the UK’s major oil companies should not be paying more than 55p + vat per litre.

Apparently the oil companies believe that 15p per litre should be the maximum mark up. Most Airfields are charging at least 80p + VAT some a lot more.

Let use this form to find out the nearest and cheapest fuel in the UK

To kick off:

Coventry 80p + Vat 94p a litre

Keef
13th Aug 2002, 22:25
Is that 55p + VAT plus fuel tax?

The fuel tax is 27.34 pence a litre. The inference is that Avgas is 27.66p a litre before taxes, which does seem a tad low? Or is it?

Southend (EGMC) price varies monthly but was 81p plus VAT last month IIRC.

Thumpango
14th Aug 2002, 01:13
EGJA 52p per litre- no vat!

foghorn
14th Aug 2002, 08:02
Biggin - 78.5p + VAT. About the only thing that is cheap about Biggin Hill... But as a lazy sucker I'm based there.

Keef - I think that duty is applied at the refinery gate so your calculations are correct.

Given that AVTUR is about 35p per litre plus VAT (no duty), this would figure. Roll on turbo diesel conversions at a sensible price.

Ludwig
14th Aug 2002, 08:44
EGBK 99.3p per litre

englishal
14th Aug 2002, 09:21
Scottsdale, Arizona, $1.91 per GALLON ! (or 30p / l)

Rip off Britain strikes again :D

AC-DC
14th Aug 2002, 11:26
Elstree 78p+ VAT:mad:

Chilli Monster
14th Aug 2002, 12:19
Filton 74p + VAT (87p)

Nottingham 82p + VAT (96p)

AerBabe
14th Aug 2002, 14:14
Interesting to see how much it costs. I fill up from Coventry before I go anywhere, and have never been so far that I've needed to fill up before coming back. I don't even get to see how much Coventry charges because it goes on the flying group account.

At the Popham fly in I got a flight with a couple of PPRuNers who were 'popping to Sandown to refuel'. I guess if there's a big difference it's worth the trip (plus it was a gorgeous day, and I'd never been to IOW before ;) )

Keef
14th Aug 2002, 19:16
Time was, with tanks below tabs, it was cheaper to fly to Ostend, refuel, and fly back than to fuel at Southend (assuming your own aeroplane, of course).

Sadly no longer so.

DB6
14th Aug 2002, 19:31
Why does anyone feel that it's useful to quote a price as xxx+ VAT as if we don't have to pay it or something? How much does it f**cking well cost? Don't give me that + VAT sh*t, I don't have a calculator handy!
(Not having a go at anyone, just a personal bee in the bonnet :D .)

SlipSlider
14th Aug 2002, 19:59
Avgas purchased 27 July, per litre, including VAT:

Old Sarum @ 92p serve yourself
Shobdon @ 97.5p fueller
Goodwood @ 99p fueller

Slip

BEagle
14th Aug 2002, 20:18
Hmmmm

Don't forget that it's not just the price per litre and VAT, there is also delivery cost to factor in.

I charge 80p per litre including VAT to my club members and 90p per litre including VAT to everyone else. Don't rush though - MoD landing charges will quickly negate any fuel cost savings. Sorry!

Keef
14th Aug 2002, 20:52
Hey, DB6, why so angry?

Those of us who regularly fly abroad fill in the little chitty on the delivery note and get our fuel VAT free, so the + VAT information is relevant - to us, at least.

A and C
15th Aug 2002, 09:44
BEagle do you charge other service flying clubs 80 or 90p/ltr ?.

DB6
16th Aug 2002, 20:06
Sherburn 88p/litre. Bollocks to VAT. Free landing if fuel purchased.
Keef, you're a lucky git then :D .

BEagle
16th Aug 2002, 20:16
A and C - for RAF FCA members, 80p. Everyone else, 90p.

That is, providing they've checked in advance that we've some for sale to them, of course! And it's sold strictly caveat emptor, cash or cheque but no credit!!

matspart3
16th Aug 2002, 20:28
Gloucester 95p inc. VAT, Refueller if required or self-service for account/key holders...and a discount on the landing fee when you buy 50 ltrs or more

long final
16th Aug 2002, 20:50
Filled up at Le Touquet this week, paid (give or take a cent or two for convertion) 84p INC. Thought it was suppost to be cheap there :rolleyes:

LF

AC-DC
17th Aug 2002, 05:42
L.F
It is cheaper than the UK if you don't claim the duty. Hence, 78p +VAT is cheaper :D

GoneWest
17th Aug 2002, 12:14
I know this is not totally relevant - but it does underline the tax situation that you guys are in, in the UK - and it also shows about rip-off mark-ups.

Cheapest Florida fuel: Pahokee 31 pence per litre ($1.82 per US gallon assuming £1 = $1.50 and 3.85 litres to the Imp Gall)

Dearest Florida fuel: Miami International 71 pence per litre (same mathematics)

How can one place charge $1.82 and a close neighbour charge $4.09??

foghorn
17th Aug 2002, 14:17
Gone West?

Surely the Amercians sell petrol in the US Gallon rather than the Imp Gallon. The US Gallon is smaller (only 16 fluid ounces I think as opposed to 20 for the imperial)

Your conversion factors are nearly there, though - one US gallon is 3.79 litres.

cheers!
foggy.

AfricanEagle
17th Aug 2002, 18:00
It can vary quite a lot from airport to airport but average price in Italy is 1,50 Euro a litre:( inclusive of VAT.


9j-rdn

maggioneato
17th Aug 2002, 18:50
Leicester today 99p litre inc vat. Landing fee £10, waived if 50 litres or more uplifted. At week-ends only. (free landing)

GoneWest
17th Aug 2002, 19:16
Foggy - the question mentioned litres. I converted it.

welkyboy
17th Aug 2002, 22:13
:)
Jersey is 49p per ltr

L fee £6.00 up to 1 tonne £3.00 increments per half tonne to max 3 tonnes =£18.00 NO VAT 7 days free parking!! This at a major International Airfield with up to 400 movements a day
Come on down the weather is fine and the sea temp. is 19 deg C
Surfs up as well

ppl(a)
18th Aug 2002, 18:37
Hey, DB6, Keef is right - why so angry??!! (Or perhaps since English without swearing seems to be very difficult for you, I should say why the f**k are you so blo*dy angry about this statutory charge boll**ks?)

Not everyone SUFFERS it, even if they have to settle it initially at purchase.

When VAT Registered, there's a likelihood that you'll claim it back monthly or quarterly anyway.

You may not be VAT Registered, others are!

BRL
1st Jun 2008, 17:42
Revived this one for the one closed earlier.

Please just keep this one on track at least and no personal crap please.