CAAP and FAA license

[iflycessna]

looked at several posts and CAAP regs to determine if CAAP has any requirements for an FAA licensed pilot to operate an N numbered aircraft in the Philippines. Appreciate any guidance...

[jmmoric]

Don't kill me here... But I'm pretty sure an FAA licensed pilot is allowed to operate an N-registrered aircraft all over the world.

[iflycessna]

Thanks for pointing out the obvious... To clarify, in many countries you cant operate in their airspace (not passing through the country but operating out of the country) without providing copies of your license, medical, aircraft airworthy documents, ramp inspection etc. In some countries you also need to be checked into airfields you want to fly from. I could not locate specifics for the Philippines, doesnt mean there are no limitations... If anyone knows of any limitations please share and point me to the source.
Thanks!

[360BakTrak]

Have you contacted the CAAP?

[Sam Rutherford]

360BakTrak +1

[MrAverage]

As an example of what iflycessna said. All pilots flying on full FAA licences in the UK in N-reg aircraft have to go through a procedure with the UK CAA. (It's not just required when they fly G-reg)

Only by contacting CAAP will you find out if they have any similar kind of procedure.

[Silvaire1]

All pilots flying on full FAA licences in the UK in N-reg aircraft have to go through a procedure with the UK CAA.

That must be inconvenient for transiting airline pilots who have never set foot on UK soil ;)

(It’s not applicable to anybody who can claim residence outside of the UK when questioned, and therefore almost impossible to enforce for anybody)

[Genghis the Engineer]

That must be inconvenient for transiting airline pilots who have never set foot on UK soil ;)

(It’s not applicable to anybody who can claim residence outside of the UK when questioned, and therefore almost impossible to enforce for anybody)

It's also not quite true.

EU residents flying IFR are required to have EASA IRs, even if they're flying an N-reg aircraft on an FAA licence.

Private VFR flying is pretty much ignored.

G

[selfin]

EU residents flying IFR are required to have EASA IRs, even if they're flying an N-reg aircraft on an FAA licence.

The condition for complying with the Aircrew Regulation is the residence or principal place of business of the operator and not the pilot.

[Ebbie 2003]

Re: the UK use of an FAA PPL not a piggyback.

I have queried this before. In September 2017 I was in the UK and thought I'd do some flying, as Earls Colne is only a couple of miles trom jy UK house I went there.

Got an odd reaction from the guy who said their expert on FAA licences would be back in ten minutes. When the guy got there he told me, can't use FAA licences in the UK you have to do a full EASA course, so I just left - I think my mistake was mentioning that I lived in Barbados and owed my own airplane here - it left a nasty taste in the mouth.

I understand that things may change after the end of this year if one is still around! The good old fashioned two out of three rule worked well so UK airspace, UK reg airplane US licence is ok, fly to France and no two out of three - maybe that is coming back.

[MrAverage]

The current requirement has been in place since 2017. Parts of it apply to flying N-reg on a full FAA licence as well as G-reg. It stopped us renting to FAA pilots because the process takes longer than they normally visit for. How do I know it applies to N-reg (apart from the requirement)? An FAA holder came to me for English language assessment before going to Gatwick to submit the form(s) as demanded by the CAA. He had an N-reg aircraft in the UK. It's actually more straight forward to fly an N-reg in the UK on a British licence. Here's the current version of the I.N. :-

http://publicapps.caa.co.uk/docs/33/InformationNotice2017029.pdf

[MrAverage]

P.S. Were it not for this, I would have been pleased to rent to you Ebbie!

[selfin]

The current requirement ...

... applies only to pilots of aircraft whose operator resides, is established, or has a principal place of business, in an EASA member state.

[Ebbie 2003]

3.1 (e) the knowledge bit seems to be the problem - how does one find someone to sign off off I wonder?

That is why I went to the flight school one would have thought hey would know this stuff - I just knew it made so sense, pretty good at spotting when I am being subjected to some prime BS.

Notwithstanding which it was the attempt to get me to sign up to 50 hours of a full PPL course that hacked me off.

Next time I am over I will have to set it all up in advance:)

[MrAverage]

selfin

That is not mentioned in any way in the I.N. Do you have an official reference?

Ebbie

I could have helped you comply with the knowledge bit!

[Whopity]

The good old fashioned two out of three rule worked well so UK airspace There has never been any such rule!

Notwithstanding which it was the attempt to get me to sign up to 50 hours of a full PPL course that hacked me off.If you hold any ICAO licence you only need to meet the requirements for a licence conversion which depend upon your total hours. Probably 2 written exams and a Skill Test plus radio licence.

For ICAO licensed pilots to operate G Reg EASA aircraft see ORS4-1301 (http://publicapps.caa.co.uk/docs/33/1301.pdf)

To fly Annex 1 G-Reg aircraft any ICAO licence is valid ANO Art 150

[selfin]

MrAverage, article 3 of the Aircrew Regulation.

[MrAverage]

Just looked at Article 3. Couldn't find any reference to FAA or N-reg. ( https://www.easa.europa.eu/sites/default/files/dfu/Easy_Access_Rules_for_Aircrew.pdf )

According to the ORS that Whopity quoted forms still have to be filled in and submitted. Also, none of this helps the likes of Ebbie..........

[selfin]

MrAverage, then review this post https://www.pprune.org/private-flying/629708-caa-form-srg2141.html#post10687603

[MrAverage]

If I was clever enough to understand all of that I would have written it.

I shall continue to comply with requests for signatures when asked and just do as the CAA tell me to do, be it directly or as shown within Information Notices and the like.