Iberia 747 turned back?

[GoneWest]

Just heard on the telly that an Iberian 747 turned back to JFK with an engine fire.

Pictures (no sound at the time) looked somewhat spooky.

Don't know enough about the story to say any more (unless I just make it up - like a journalist)

[Massey1Bravo]

There is a similar incident a few days ago involving a CX 744 (356 pax) HKG-SFO, with flames seen shooting off the No.2 Engine after takeoff. Landed 90 mins later w/o any injuries.

[maxy101]

More info on www.eresmas.com for those that read Spanish...

[Konkordski]

Don't know enough about the story to say any more (unless I just make it up - like a journalist)


Would that be like the same journalist you obviously cribbed the (true) story off in the first place?

[Konkordski]

Sounds like a non-event. :rolleyes:

Flight IB6250

Boeing 747 carrying 369 passengers and a crew of 17 (three pilots, a flight engineer and 13 cabin attendants).

Injuries occurred at New York's JFK airport as the passengers slid down emergency chutes to evacuate the aircraft scheduled to fly from New York to Madrid at 18:20 local time.

Immediately following takeoff one of the four engines (engine no. 2) burst into flame. The crew shut down the engine and returned immediately, making a normal landing.

Most passengers and crew were unharmed, but a few people suffered bruises and scratches when evacuating the aircraft by sliding down the emergency chutes. Eight were taken to hospital, and four were immediately released.

The cause of the fire has yet to be determined but an investigation is now underway. The aircraft had undergone routine inspection procedures prior to the takeoff.

[Flight Safety]

From CNN...

cnn link (http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/08/12/airplane.fire.ap/index.html)

NEW YORK (AP) -- An engine fire forced an Iberia Airlines 747 jet to return to John F. Kennedy Airport on Sunday shortly after takeoff, authorities said.

Pilots turned the plane around when a fire warning light came on, said Arlene Salac, a spokeswoman for the Federal Aviation Administration.

All 386 passengers and crew were evacuated from the Madrid-bound plane after it landed on the runway at about 7:20 p.m., Salac said.

Five people were taken to Jamaica Hospital with injuries sustained in the evacuation, according to hospital spokeswoman Tara Fleming. She said a 56-year-old man with a head injury was in serious condition, and a 60-year-old woman who briefly lost consciousness was admitted for observation.

The remaining three patients were likely to be treated and released, Fleming said.

Passenger Georg Hutter, of Vienna, Austria, said he was seated at the back of the jetliner and saw smoke and flames through the window.

"While he was taking off, it was all smoke. We saw it from the passenger compartment," Hutter said. "The engine was taking more fire, the flames were coming more and more."

Salac said the fire was contained to the engine.

[Knold]

Swedish tele-text reported an Iberia 707?!?... this clarifies it somewhat :D

[Desk Driver]

At the risk of stiring things up i going to ask.

Are Iberia still leasing in 74 or 74's from Air Atlanta?

[akerosid]

Yes, these leases are continuing: 3 ex-Varig (GE powered) 743s are operated by Air Atlanta.

However, the OAG shows the JFK route to be operate by a "real" Iberia aircraft. The 743s normally operate to MEX, MIA and EZE.

[atakacs]

She said a 56-year-old man with a head injury was in serious condition, and a 60-year-old woman who briefly lost consciousness was admitted for observation Sounds like there was some real hurry to evacuate. Why was that ? Was the engine still burning ? Did the firesquad advise an emergency evacuation ? Just wondering...

[Flight Detent]

I say "AKEROSKID",

I thought the TWO 743's (GE powered), that are actually leased to Iberia, are also operated by Iberia, it's an airframe lease only!
No Air Atlanta crews are aboard, and they are Spanish registered!

Cheers.

[PaperTiger]

From Bill Harms' census:

22454 509 B747-256B(M) JT9D-7Q3 02/18/81 IBERIA EC-HVD ex- EC-DLC,TF-ATL

22455 515 B747-256B(M) JT9D-7Q3 03/24/81 IBERIA EC-IAF ex- EC-DLD,TF-ATM

L 24106 701 B747-341 CF6-80C2B1 04/30/88 IBERIA (ABD) TF-ATH ex- N6046P,PP-VOA,N830DS

L 24107 702 B747-341 CF6-80C2B1 05/13/88 IBERIA (ABD) TF-ATI ex- N6018N,PP-VOB,N824DS

L 24108 703 B747-341 CF6-80C2B1 05/27/88 IBERIA (ABD) TF-ATJ ex- N6005C,PP-VOC,N420DS

Which I think means the 743s are leased and on the Iceland registry, but two previously Atlanta leased 742s were bought and put on the Spain registry. Or not :confused:

[PaperTiger]

7 hospitalized, 1 in serious condition.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/793045.asp?0dm=C21BN&cp1=1

[skiver]

I saw the whole incident... I was waiting to depart on 13R.

The engine fire was pretty serious... it appeared to have gone into complete melt down... molten metal exploding out of the casing at regular intervals and dense smoke.

I must say though that the JFK fire-crews were magnificent!!! The 747 stopped half way down the runway where the fire trucks were already waiting. They started firing foam at the engine within a second of the aircraft stopping... quite impressive fire power too!!!

The evacuation was delayed initially... the first slides appeared about a minute after stopping... all on the right hand side as the port side of the aircraft was completely IMC in smoke and foam by then.

Door 5R slide didn't deploy properly... I suspect that the brisk southerly breeze caused it to be blown under the fuselage before it was fully inflated and it then became jammed in a virtually vertical position. Something to consider for future evacuations, I suppose. The other slides deployed normally.

WELL DONE JFK FIRE-CREWS!!! It was most comforting to see how professional you were!!!

[wallabie]

Skiver

Thanks, very interesting and factual post. Food for thoughts.

[lomapaseo]

What kind of engines on this plane.?

The old magnesium gear box JT9Ds or the titanium compressors on the older GE's ?

Of course one photo would tell, but I haven't seen any yet.

[JR_wilco]

it was EC-DNP, a 200B with 4x JT9D´s, built 1982

Amazingly this aircraft is not listed in the JP as flying for Iberia anymore. It was due for sale since IB equipped itself with a number of -300´s from Air Atlanta.

jr
http://www.jacdec.de

[lomapaseo]

>it was EC-DNP, a 200B with 4x JT9D´s, built 1982
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Thanks, I understand this a lot better now. Not much you can do about a magnesium fire until it burns itself out. The good news is that they are on the bottom of the cowl and the molten stuff falls out the bottom.