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CaptainWhizz
24th Nov 2019, 20:02
I trained in 1999 for a national license. Since my license was issued in early March 2000 I was unaware that I had been issued with a JAA license, not what I applied for. In 2005, I renewed my license only for my famous helicopter instructor to be told off for signing me off with a non-existent license! Nobody knew that JAA only lasted 5 years! I would like to know when the training syllabus was changed from being national to JAA as there is quite a difference?

Jhieminga
25th Nov 2019, 08:29
You should be able to convert it to an EASA license. See here: https://www.caa.co.uk/Commercial-industry/Pilot-licences/Convert/Converting-to-an-EASA-licence-from-a-UK-national-or-JAR-licence/
The old JAR license itself had an expiration date, but this only applied to the bit of paper. You still have a pilot license with all the relevant ratings, you just wont be able to exercise the priviliges until you get a replacement license.

Whopity
25th Nov 2019, 16:45
JAR-FCL was adopted by the CAA in July 1999 for aeroplanes. Whilst it was possible to continue to issue lifetime National licences up until 31 December 1999, 5 year JAR-FCL licences were issued between July 1999 and December 1999. All licences issued after 1 Jan 2000 had to be JAA licences and it was not possible to issue a National licence to anyone who had not held one prior to 1 July 1999. Everyone was made aware that all licences had to be maintained in accordance with JAR-FCL from 1 Jan 2000 however; it was not common knowledge that licences issued between July and December were JAA licences and not National licences. By March 2000 only JAA licences were being issued and you had clearly missed the large amount of information that was being circulated by the CAA and the various aviation magazines.
You can convert your licence to an EASA licence and now if you wish obtain a UK National licence as well.

MaxR
26th Nov 2019, 12:29
licences...licences...licences...licence...licences...licenc es...licences... licences...licence...licence...licence :D :ok: :) :D :ok: :) :D :ok: :) :ok: :D

Saab Dastard
26th Nov 2019, 16:14
Indeed.

A licence is an object, to license is a verb (or to be licensed, passive voice).

Not a lot of people seem to know that - particularly North Americans, because they speak a language that is similar to English, but not quite the same.

Jan Olieslagers
26th Nov 2019, 17:20
A licence is an object, to license is a verb (or to be licensed, passive voice).

This has been a point of doubt and uncertainty to me for a long while - thanks for settling it for once and for good.

Jhieminga
26th Nov 2019, 18:00
Same here, I’ll try to do better next time :ouch:

Kemble Pitts
26th Nov 2019, 20:05
A way to remember/work it out anew is to think of it in the same way as advice and advise. 'c' in the thing, 's' in the verb.

CaptainWhizz
3rd Dec 2019, 15:06
Thanks Whopity, you have made that very clear.