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NorthernSeeker
12th Oct 2019, 15:12
Hi!

Has anyone any experience with the airline the last couple of years? I've read some old numbers where pay wasn't fixed, it was all up to the number of hours you fly. How is the bonding on the A319/B717? What to expect if invited to interviews etc.
Just wondering if it is worth applying for or if it is just another hole in the ground...?

PositiveGhostrider
12th Oct 2019, 18:21
I'm interested as well. I believe no bonding scheme.

MD80rookie
13th Oct 2019, 05:57
Second Officer on an A319? Stop this crap now...

Meester proach
13th Oct 2019, 06:13
Make a third and fourth officer, then they can pay even less. Roll up, roll up, suckers !

SpGo
13th Oct 2019, 07:10
Second Officer on an A319? Stop this crap now...

They only recruit FOs on the 717, you’ll have to pay around 20000€ for a useless rating and earn around 12000€/year afterwards.

Xavier999
13th Oct 2019, 11:03
Totally agree with the above chaps.

So, positive sides ( few) are : very nice and warm environment, especially if you respect each other; CC are friendly and Pilots are nice chaps; financial stability.
Downsides: very few hours during the year, expect max 500; the salary is simply disgraceful, expect 1k if less than 40bh, not more than 2.6k if 80 ( this fortune only 3 times per year); contracts are with unpaid leave (usually 8 months on/4 off, when u will earn 0 ) for at least 2 seasons.
And, to finish, a lot of “mafia”: if you know someone, you will be safe.
No bonding, just pay for the tr.
Interview quite hard and selective, prepare atpl and for a sim ride.

Fortunately I am in Dublin

NorthernSeeker
13th Oct 2019, 12:08
Second Officer on an A319? Stop this crap now...
I agree, it is impressive what airlines do nowadays to justify a reduction in terms.. Just wanted to hear if anyone had experience with the scheme, but with the info from SpGo, I would definitely pass on this chance :rolleyes:

El Capitano
13th Oct 2019, 15:25
I agree, it is impressive what airlines do nowadays to justify a reduction in terms.. Just wanted to hear if anyone had experience with the scheme, but with the info from SpGo, I would definitely pass on this chance :rolleyes:
Don,t even consider to apply or fly for this scum airline.
Floatea, pull out the plug!
Get these suckers out of business! Once again, the EU commission whimpies do nothing to stop this scandalous abuse of pilots looking for a job.
Look somewhere else! There are far better options available!

E.C.
E.C.

SpGo
13th Oct 2019, 15:35
Totally agree with the above chaps.

So, positive sides ( few) are : financial stability.
the salary is simply disgraceful, expect 1k if less than 40bh, not more than 2.6k if 80 ( this fortune only 3 times per year); contracts are with unpaid leave (usually 8 months on/4 off, when u will earn 0 )
No bonding, just pay for the tr

pay for your rating and them earn 1000€/month, do you call that financial stability???

Xavier999
13th Oct 2019, 19:33
pay for your rating and them earn 1000€/month, do you call that financial stability???



Mate, I am with you. These infos are from a close friend still there.

Off course, financial stability for the management, not for the employees...

Maybe someone from the inside can tell us something more

Meester proach
13th Oct 2019, 21:56
1000 euros a month ! You must be utterly unemployable elsewhere if you take this , prostitution .

FlyTCI
14th Oct 2019, 01:22
1000 euros a month ! You must be utterly unemployable elsewhere if you take this , prostitution .
I would assume you can make a heck of a lot more than that as a prostitute, without even being good at it.

Our industry and what too many (European) pilots accept is a disgrace.

anto125
14th Oct 2019, 13:27
Since I lost a good job offer due to the fact that I was sarcastically quoting one of your highly intellectual colleague using this kind of language, and also because it's not really professional to talk like that, please let's express ourselves like evolved human beings or at least professionals.
You can express your very personal opinion in many other ways...

Meester proach
14th Oct 2019, 17:53
What are you on about ?

professional = profession . What this used to be , before ten year olds borrowed 120000 euros , so they could get a selfie snap in a pilot shirt and work for less than Starbucks pays

RunBoyRun
15th Oct 2019, 11:04
pay for your rating and them earn 1000€/month, do you call that financial stability???





Is that 1000 bucks figure for real? If it is, it may well be the lowest salary I've ever heard of. How can someone possibly accept that is beyond my understanding. :bored:

Meester proach
15th Oct 2019, 20:43
Is that 1000 bucks figure for real? If it is, it may well be the lowest salary I've ever heard of. How can someone possibly accept that is beyond my understanding. :bored:

because there are a lot of desperate 250 hr CPL holders in Europe, tryin to get on the ladder and not many companies , or even companies willing to take them

IFLYyouBREATH
16th Oct 2019, 17:41
Any feedback regarding the last assessment? Cheers Guys

PilotRoger
17th Oct 2019, 16:06
1000 eur seems very low, perhaps that's just the training salary, that would make more sense, until your line check

porkflyer
18th Oct 2019, 13:57
What are you on about ?

professional = profession . What this used to be , before ten year olds borrowed 120000 euros , so they could get a selfie snap in a pilot shirt and work for less than Starbucks pays
Exactly like that.

3Greens
18th Oct 2019, 18:07
Maybe that should have been part of your due diligence prior to pilot training?

SID PLATE
22nd Oct 2019, 18:17
You might want to consider the value of your your 717 rating ...
Volotea ...Hawaiian .. Quantas .. Delta ... bit of a limited choice for a 'Northern European' ?

Jamesflyer1
27th Nov 2019, 13:20
Hi hôtel hôtel*

i believe they should contact you pretty soon if they need pilots for the next summer season at least before March*

May I ask you when did you apply and how long did it take to get an answer*