No new LAME positions at QF for the next 6-8 years.

[Pterois Volitans]

Qantas Engineering have just announced they will be NO new LAME positions for AME,s for the next 6-8 years!!! What does that say about career advancement....or lack of. There is now very little point in AME,s spending there own time and money on training if QF is never going to recognise their hard work. It also weakens the ALAEA membership and any ongoing negotiations.

Feel free to comment.
PV

[Tom Sawyer]

No new ones even due to natural attrition (leavers, retirement etc.) having to be back filled, or no new ones even to fill those potential vacancies to keep numbers stable?

[SuPeRcHaRgEd]

Are Qantas going down the same road as Cobham and others. Reducing the expensive skilled workers and replacing with contractors like Oceania and Aerocare who are responsible for all of the ground handling and push backs etc. They call it "engineering on demand"

[Maxmotor]

No new ones even due to natural attrition (leavers, retirement etc.) having to be back filled, or no new ones even to fill those potential vacancies to keep numbers stable?

Replaced by Cat A licences

[Buster Hyman]

What could possibly go wrong? :hmm:

[gordonfvckingramsay]

QF going down the same road as Cobham? because that’s been a roaring success. The 717 now has a very bad reputation as an unreliable aircraft because it was maintained “on demand” and by the lowest bidder. If QF truly go down this path, they will become a laughing stock.

[dragon man]

QF going down the same road as Cobham? because that’s been a roaring success. The 717 now has a very bad reputation as an unreliable aircraft because it was maintained “on demand” and by the lowest bidder. If QF truly go down this path, they will become a laughing stock.

They all ready are .

[Bootstrap1]

Just remember managers are short term contractors. I can remember one short rotund manager telling all the AMEs about 11-12 years ago that you will not get trained and you have reached the pinnacle of your career. Then he got booted and albeit a small number of AMEs were trained, but they were trained. And last year one manager with a scottish accent also said that there will be full B1 training for AMEs this year(2019). That obviously hasn't happened. It is hard to know who to believe and when to believe them. Cat A licences are the saviour, obviously.

[Going Boeing]

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/784x918/8978b6aa_8229_4b94_9ef8_5080950931f6_d90bddd0cc3205ade01974b b027b299f1474b886.jpeg
This sums it up well.

[Johnny_56]

They don’t train Lames = shortage of qualified guys/girls = reason for imported workforce to ‘fill’ self made shortfall = downward pressure over wages.

Hopefully in 5 or 6 years time some politician will be able to say “why didn’t train engineers 5 or 6 years ago?” - but then that probably wouldn’t be in the national interest...

[empire4]

QF going down the same road as Cobham? because that’s been a roaring success. The 717 now has a very bad reputation as an unreliable aircraft because it was maintained “on demand” and by the lowest bidder. If QF truly go down this path, they will become a laughing stock.

Maintenance on demand is not the problem with the B717. Its the muppets at Qlink and the CAMO. There are some really good guys at Cobham 145, as there are at QF. Qlink is NOT QF.

QF is already doing maintenance on demand. The difference you are speaking of is the LAME-less tarmac which QF still do not do. Whats funny is every time I look over and see the good old QF boys doing a push back I have a little chuckle which gets particularly louder when its raining or cold as I'm sipping my coffee in the engineering van. Probably some time this century I hope they realise that chucking chocks, placing cones and telling a pilot brakes off is not being an engineer.

100% agree that Qantas is going to have some tough years ahead, and the shortage of engineers in Oz is only going to get bigger!