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oceancrosser
2nd Sep 2019, 02:58
...courtesy of Dorian

MYGF 012300Z 0200/0224 33050G100KT 1600 +TSRA BKN012CB BKN090 OVC200
FM021300 VRB80G200KT 800 +TSRA BKN009CB OVC050

hans brinker
2nd Sep 2019, 05:38
...courtesy of Dorian

MYGF 012300Z 0200/0224 33050G100KT 1600 +TSRA BKN012CB BKN090 OVC200
FM021300 VRB80G200KT 800 +TSRA BKN009CB OVC050

Request Runway 33, and set MCT, I want to get there before 13:00Z....

PerPurumTonantes
2nd Sep 2019, 05:50
You won't need an aircraft to get airborne...

hans brinker
2nd Sep 2019, 06:15
Not to turn this into a pissing contest, but not uncommon in Australia during cyclone season.
Definitely don't want a pissing contest with those winds.

krismiler
2nd Sep 2019, 06:26
An alternate would be required ?

pukua
2nd Sep 2019, 06:44
Not to turn this into a pissing contest, but not uncommon in Australia during cyclone season.
On behalf of many Australians I apologise for another Austranaught!

Check Airman
2nd Sep 2019, 06:47
...courtesy of Dorian

MYGF 012300Z 0200/0224 33050G100KT 1600 +TSRA BKN012CB BKN090 OVC200
FM021300 VRB80G200KT 800 +TSRA BKN009CB OVC050

VRB080G200

What do you put in the PERF APPR page?

beardy
2nd Sep 2019, 06:57
Doors wind speed limits?

SMT Member
2nd Sep 2019, 07:07
VRB080G200

What do you put in the PERF APPR page?

Something that doesn't start with MYFG, I'd imagine ....

Lookleft
2nd Sep 2019, 07:20
Anything you like as it wont make any difference!

KRviator
2nd Sep 2019, 08:43
Something that doesn't start with MYFG, I'd imagine ....You bugger! I snorted my beer out my nose reading that! :D:ok:

Reckon one of these would work?
https://www.euroga.org/system/1/user_files/files/000/025/578/25578/0e668b673/large/17022185_1310546892361962_1488858073965291892_n.jpg

73qanda
2nd Sep 2019, 09:20
Not to turn this into a pissing contest, but not uncommon in Australia during cyclone season.
The strongest wind gust recorded on the Australian mainland is 267 km/h. The gust was recorded during cyclone Vance at 11:50 am (WST) 22 March 1999 at Learmonth Meteorological Office, 35 km south of Exmouth.

Wind gusts of 259 km/h at Mardie and 246 km/h at Onslow were measured during cyclone Trixie in February 1975.


By ‘ not uncommon’ do you mean ‘pretty much never and certainly not on the populated mainland’?

PW1830
2nd Sep 2019, 09:37
In 50 years never seen 200kts forecast anywhere - seen the odd typhoon around Asia.

krismiler
2nd Sep 2019, 09:52
Cyclone Tracy, which devastated Darwin in Christmas 1974, recorded a 217 km/hr maximum wind speed before the anemometer failed. Given the scale of the destruction it was likely much higher.

fox niner
2nd Sep 2019, 10:09
I guess the port has been freed by now?

compressor stall
2nd Sep 2019, 10:17
Not to turn this into a pissing contest, but not uncommon in Australia during cyclone season.
hmmm, Ive never seen 200kt in a TAF in Oz in the last 20 + years. Yasi was estimated at only 300kmh.

Weve got enough biggest, most poisonous, longest records. We dont need to make up more.

Surlybonds
2nd Sep 2019, 11:24
hmmm, Ive never seen 200kt in a TAF in Oz in the last 20 + years. Yasi was estimated at only 300kmh.

Weve got enough biggest, most poisonous, longest records. We dont need to make up more.

Yeah, even the sheep are poisonous...

Doug E Style
2nd Sep 2019, 11:38
...courtesy of Dorian

MYGF 012300Z 0200/0224 (tel:0200/0224) 33050G100KT 1600 +TSRA BKN012CB BKN090 OVC200
FM021300 VRB80G200KT 800 +TSRA BKN009CB OVC050

I'd stick an extra ton on in case there's some holding.

The AvgasDinosaur
2nd Sep 2019, 12:20
...courtesy of Dorian

MYGF 012300Z 0200/0224 (tel:0200/0224) 33050G100KT 1600 +TSRA BKN012CB BKN090 OVC200
FM021300 VRB80G200KT 800 +TSRA BKN009CB OVC050
Im well aware its a PILOTS forum. Is there a kind soul in the house could provide a decode for the illiterate, please ?
Humble request
David

jimjim1
2nd Sep 2019, 12:27
I’m well aware it’s a PILOTS forum. Is there a kind soul in the house could provide a decode for the illiterate, please ?


From - Flight Utilities ? Metar / Taf Reader and Decoder Online (http://www.flightutilities.com/MRonline.aspx)

MYGF 012300Z 0200/0224 33050G100KT 1600 +TSRA BKN012CB BKN090 OVC200
FM021300 VRB80G200KT 800 +TSRA BKN009CB OVC050


Location: MYGF
FREEPORT - INTERNATIONAL - BAHAMAS
Latitude: 2633'19"N - Longitude: 07841'54"W.
Magnetic declination: 7.87W
Sunrise: 10:54 UTC
Sunset: 23:35 UTC
Report emitted the day: 01, time 23:00 UTC
Monday 2 September 2019 00:00 local time.
The forecast valid time are from day of the month: 02 time: 00:00 UTC (Monday 2 September 2019 01:00 local time) to day of the month: 02 time: 24:00 UTC (Tuesday 3 September 2019 01:00 local time).
Wind: True direction = 330 degrees, speed: 50 knots (93 km/h) (26 m/s), with Gusts of maximum speed 100 knots (185 km/h) (51 m/s).
Runway 06, length 11021 feet, altitude 6 feet: Cross Wind 50 KT Left - Centerline Wind 6 KT front.
Runway 24, length 11021 feet, altitude 7 feet: Cross Wind 50 KT Right - Centerline Wind 7 KT rear.
Minimum horizontal visibility: 1600 m.
Weather: Strong Thunderstorms Rain .
Clouds: Broken sky (5-7 oktas), at 1200 feet above aerodrome level (366 meters), cumulonimbus.
Clouds: Broken sky (5-7 oktas), at 9000 feet above aerodrome level (2743 meters).
Clouds: Overcast sky (8 oktas), at 20000 feet above aerodrome level (6096 meters).

From 13:00 UTC (Monday 2 September 2019 14:00 local time), Wind: Variable in direction, speed: 80 knots (148 km/h) (41 m/s), with Gusts of maximum speed 200 knots (370 km/h) (103 m/s).
800: Unknown token.
Weather: Strong Thunderstorms Rain .
Clouds: Broken sky (5-7 oktas), at 900 feet above aerodrome level (274 meters), cumulonimbus.
Clouds: Overcast sky (8 oktas), at 5000 feet above aerodrome level (1524 meters).

The AvgasDinosaur
2nd Sep 2019, 12:47
Many many thanks for your time and trouble.
Be lucky
David

YRP
2nd Sep 2019, 12:50
Request Runway 33, and set MCT, I want to get there before 13:00Z....

Yeah for sure. After 1300 you might need special VFR with that lower ceiling. 😎

Teevee
2nd Sep 2019, 12:59
Just a point, those Aussie speeds are in Km/hr. They don't come close to kts/hour.

fokker1000
2nd Sep 2019, 17:56
Try KEF for size, not as strong winds, but 50kts in snow isn't that usual, and we keep operating.... just ;-o

Check Airman
2nd Sep 2019, 18:42
Try KEF for size, not as strong winds, but 50kts in snow isn't that usual, and we keep operating.... just ;-o

That's impressive. My airline stops moving when the surface wind exceeds 50kt.

BluSdUp
2nd Sep 2019, 19:29
Enough for two approaches before diverting!?

Nick 1
2nd Sep 2019, 20:16
Translation : if TAF is more then two lines long , stay at home ...

Water pilot
2nd Sep 2019, 21:25
Which one of those symbols indicates the depth?

Freeport airport is currently under five feet of water. Thoughts for all those affected, may this damn thing move out to sea and stay far offshore (out of the shipping lanes, please.)

Pilot DAR
3rd Sep 2019, 00:45
Freeport airport is currently under five feet of water.

When I flew into Freeport many years back, there was a photo in the FBO, which showed a number of jets sitting up to their fuselages in water. It was explained to me that the photo was taken from the roof of the FBO building, of a storm surge. I hope people were able to fly their aircraft to safety this time....

krismiler
3rd Sep 2019, 01:49
Hopefully there are some RNAV/GNSS approaches, that sort of flooding tends to put ground based aids out of action for a few days.

3wheels
3rd Sep 2019, 14:07
Fun day out...even a 30 degree crosswind component would give you 100 knots of crosswind!

skadi
3rd Sep 2019, 14:36
Just a point, those Aussie speeds are in Km/hr. They don't come close to kts/hour.

kts/hour???

knots are nm/h

skadi

Stuka Child
4th Sep 2019, 14:16
In defense of some posters, Western Australia is actually where the strongest wind gust ever recorded hit - at 408 km/h.

langleybaston
4th Sep 2019, 18:05
kts/hour???

knots are nm/h

skadi

knots per hour is an acceleration.

langleybaston
4th Sep 2019, 18:08
kts/hour???

knots are nm/h

skadi

knots per hour is an acceleration.

As an aside, in my entire career as a Metman, I don't think that I ever forecast a steady wind of over 60 kt, or a gust of more than 90.
That's all over UK, Cyprus, and Germany.

nicolai
4th Sep 2019, 20:49
This is what an airport looks like during that:
https://twitter.com/kionnemcghee/status/1168540276949954560

and here's what it does to structures afterwards:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2019/09/03/sobering-scenes-showing-hurricane-dorians-toll-bahamas-emerge/

the_stranger
5th Sep 2019, 06:25
This is what an airport looks like during that:
https://twitter.com/kionnemcghee/status/1168540276949954560 (https://twitter.com/kionnemcghee/status/1168540276949954560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembe d%7Ctwterm%5E1168540276949954560&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fweather%2F201 9%2F09%2F03%2Fsobering-scenes-showing-hurricane-dorians-toll-bahamas-emerge%2F)

and here's what it does to structures afterwards:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2019/09/03/sobering-scenes-showing-hurricane-dorians-toll-bahamas-emerge/
It's just a little standing water, perfectly flyable as long as you account for it in the take off and landing performance.

nicolai
5th Sep 2019, 07:07
It's just a little standing water, perfectly flyable as long as you account for it in the take off and landing performance.

... and you're flying a Catalina!

YRP
5th Sep 2019, 12:43
It's just a little standing water, perfectly flyable as long as you account for it in the take off and landing performance.

... just be sure to use the tables for wet-runway-with-whitecaps.

Strumble Head
5th Sep 2019, 18:44
Brings back memories of doing a 'FOD plod' at GIB with a fishing boat on (and I do mean on) the eastern end of the runway following a touch of weather. Couldn't see how that was going to fit in a rubbish bag, but off we went from the western end :rolleyes:

bill fly
6th Sep 2019, 10:31
Well I guess we can now see what a huge tragedy it was and is.
Perhaps time for a reach into the back pocket rather than the jokes box...

OldnGrounded
6th Sep 2019, 15:32
Well I guess we can now see what a huge tragedy it was and is.
Perhaps time for a reach into the back pocket rather than the jokes box...

Here's the relief information page of the official Bahamas website:

https://www.bahamas.com/relief

Steepclimb
10th Sep 2019, 23:13
Im well aware its a PILOTS forum. Is there a kind soul in the house could provide a decode for the illiterate, please ?
Humble request
David
Ha ha, I'm glad someone translated it for you. But it's a funny thing, once you know the codes you can actually read it in very few seconds compared to reading the long hand. I literally can barely read the translated version.
If it's worth your while you should learn it. Reading a a bunch of METARs you can form a picture in your head of the weather in the entire country quicker than you'd believe.