The F28-1000 operated its first RPT service in Australia 50 years ago today

[B772]

F28-1000 VH-MMJ operated MV 1740 PER - PHE on 2 Sep 1969.

[Cilba]

Great aircraft! 5,000 hours on type in eight countries.

[Capn Bloggs]

Go the Fokkers! :D

[ExtraShot]

There was a great thread a little while ago on the DC-9, with some really interesting war stories and photos.
It’d be nice to maybe see something similar with the F-28!

[Ozdork]

There was a great thread a little while ago on the DC-9, with some really interesting war stories and photos.
It’d be nice to maybe see something similar with the F-28!
Particularly if that low-level hold down on departure out of Tennant Creek surfaces....

[ghyde]

And they are still going strong.

Alliance is the worlds largest F70/100 Operator

[rog747]

Used to see the early F-28's doing holiday charters at Palma, Mallorca from 1969 onwards as the holiday airlines were some of the very first F-28 operators.

LTU, Germanair, Martinair, Aviacion, flying from Germany and Holland

(PH-MAT of Martinair going to MMA Miller VH-FKF and D-AHLB of Aviacion to MMA Miller as VH-FKG)

Braathens, Linjeflyg, both flying down from Scandinavia to the Med, often with a stop at RTM.

Iberia also ordered three aircraft. They were regularly seen operating as far afield as Heathrow.

Despite LTU being the official launch customer, their first aircraft was damaged the day after delivery on February 24, 1969 and needed its starboard wing replaced. The aircraft had been attempting take-off on a demonstration flight from Hanover but ice contamination on the wing caused a roll to the left on rotation and the wing to impact the ground. The aircraft was successfully landed but the right wing, flaps and ailerons were badly damaged.
​This enabled Braathens to steal the day and put its first F28-1000 into service earlier, on March 28. It had received its second aircraft the day before also. Braathens used its F28s on domestic scheduled routes but also charter operations to the Mediterranean. In fact, the initial service was a Stavanger-Rotterdam-Palma service. LTU finally started operations on April 2, 1969 and put the type straight into service between Dusseldorf and Palma de Mallorca. At this time all of LTU’s service departed from their base in Dusseldorf.
LTU appeared to have found the F28 less suitable to its increasing operations. It acquired a further pair of new build aircraft in 1971 (D-ABAN and D-ABAM) but all four aircraft were sold on in 1973/74. Soon afterwards LTU was purchasing new, and nearly new L-1011 Tristars to complement its Caravelles so it may have been that the F28 was simply too small for its charter operations by the mid-70s.

Fokker’s move into pure jets was a risk that took a long while to pay off. Interestingly far from being a ‘regional’ type aircraft the earliest F-28 operators saw the Fellowship as a mainline aircraft and it was not unusual to see the type in operation on charter routes from Northern Europe to the Mediterranean that in later years would occupy an A300 or a Tristar. Although the above airlines ordered the Fellowship early on for Inclusive Tour holiday charter flights, the small niche jet was OK with 65 seats for the near Mediterranean, but because the range of the Fokker F-28 was too low, the companies could not offer non-stop connections to the important winter destinations in the Canary Islands and many aircraft were sold on and Fokker lost orders. ​

[34R]

Some great footage of F28 unpaved runway trials into Bacchus Marsh

https://youtu.be/WVDfVfvElAQ

[rog747]

Some great footage of F28 unpaved runway trials into Bacchus Marsh



Great archive there -
The first ever F-28 seen in the video PH-MOL, saw service as LN-SUM with Martinair, Braathens S.A.F.E. and LTU

[Saintly]

Why was the F28 such a loud aircraft? I remember flying on them from Perth to Carnarvon (PER-CVQ) with Ansett WA and the house I stayed at was underneath the flight path so the F28 would fly over the house and it was just so loud. Great stuff.

[rog747]

Why was the F28 such a loud aircraft? I remember flying on them from Perth to Carnarvon (PER-CVQ) with Ansett WA and the house I stayed at was underneath the flight path so the F28 would fly over the house and it was just so loud. Great stuff.

Rolls Royce Spey x 2 ( RR RB.183 Mk 555-15 Spey Junior) will probably be the culpable reason here, never ''hushed'' AFAIK - Also fitted on the BAC 1-11 crackle jet...
I do not assume for one moment 'Junior' ever came into any form of noise reduction over the adult version. LOL

However, inhabitants of OZ did not see many 1-11's to experience the racket...

[Centaurus]

In 1976 when I first went on the the F28 operated by Air Nauru we used the Ansett Company Ops Manual on how to fly the F28 which used the same text in some areas as the Ansett DC9 Operations manual. In particular I recall one statement warning that the F28 was a high sink rate aircraft and there was a minimum approach thrust setting for spool up purposes. In other words Ansett pinched swathes of DC9 advice and inserted that into the F28 manuals.
In fact the F28 was a kitty cat to fly compared to the DC9 and later the 737. I don't recall a high sink rate danger on final.

[Trevor the lover]

Crikeeeey, first 20 seconds of that video had me thinking I was about to see some 1960s hairy flight attendant porn............... alas

[geeup]

TBL Warrior a well kept 50 year old Fukker on heat would spin your wheels. And drink you under the table!

Your MAX won’t make 50! Have they started dragging them to the tip yet?

F70/100 has another 30 years of service life maybe more.

To me that clip was porn

[Global Aviator]

Now that’s a sales video!!!

Love the bit - “the crosswind has considerable effect on landings”, little bit of wing down all looked very smooth.

One great Fukker for sure, again real aircraft. GPS you say...

They don’t buildem like that anymore!

Same re the comment re the erm other 50 year old....... :)

[B772]

Who remembers the Cyclone Tracy evacuation in 1974 when a 60 seat MV F28-1000 VH-FKB departed DRW with 128 pax.

[Saintly]

Gee how did that manage that? Good effort.

Who remembers the Cyclone Tracy evacuation in 1974 when a 60 seat MV F28-1000 VH-FKB departed DRW with 128 pax.

[Saintly]

I used to fly on the F28s (PER - CVQ - PER) with Ansett.(Ansett WA) and they were loud.

Rolls Royce Spey x 2 (
RR RB.183 Mk 555-15 Spey Junior) will probably be the culpable reason here, never ''hushed'' AFAIK - Also fitted on the BAC 1-11 crackle jet...
I do not assume for one moment 'Junior' ever came into any form of noise reduction over the adult version. LOL

However, inhabitants of OZ did not see many 1-11's to experience the racket...

[WingNut60]

I used to fly on the F28s (PER - CVQ - PER) with Ansett.(Ansett WA) and they were loud.

..........and they were VERY loud in the crapper.

[krismiler]

I recall one statement warning that the F28 was a high sink rate aircraft

Pull the speed brakes and you'd soon find out what a high sink rate was. The F28 was the backbone of airline service in PNG rather than a feeder due to its high level of performance and the lower passenger numbers, as stated earlier the noise was incredible, the windows in the terminal used to vibrate when one taxied close by.

[Buster Hyman]

..........and they were VERY loud in the crapper.

Just loud enough to drown out the noise huh? :E

[rog747]

Gee how did that manage that? Good effort.

Amazing feat for a little Fokker...The charter airlines in Europe would have liked that capacity!

Also in 1974 during cyclone Tracey, an Ansett 727 (was it a 100 or a 200?) set a world record by lifting 311 passengers.
In 1975 a World Airways Boeing 727-173 made a flight with over 300 on board while being shot at and hit with hand grenades lifting off PDQ from Saigon (?)

[krismiler]

This guy got the record with 674 on a B747.

https://www.ntnews.com.au/news/special-features/cyclone-tracy/donns-record-cyclone-tracy-mercy-flight/news-story/e79f3b3991b4de6dbaa1ad0160e2641c

[Buster Hyman]

Ryanair still trying to beat those records...

[Buster Hyman]

Also in 1974 during cyclone Tracey, an Ansett 727 (was it a 100 or a 200?) set a world record by lifting 311 passengers.
727-277 VH-RMV 314 SOB Aviation in the Aftermath of Cyclone Tracy (http://www.adastron.com/cyclone-tracy/tracy.htm)

[WingNut60]

I remember as SLF at Kununurra around 1990 (maybe earlier) together with other PAX, helping to hand-push an F28 to get its bum out of the searing afternoon wind so the crew could get the engines started - tug / tractor was inoperative.

And then, of course, there was the famous diversion Broome - Derby - Fitzroy Crossing, running on fumes.

[Capn Bloggs]

From the Welcome Aboard card:

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[rog747]

Great photo there of 5 Fokkers, plus a JAT Yugoslavia 707 behind?

[WingNut60]

........plus a JAT Yugoslavia 707 behind?

I give up. How do you know that?

[Traffic_Is_Er_Was]

Did I spy some Departmental "Golden Holdens" and Aerocommanders parked up in the background of the video?

[greybeard]

The DC-3 in the background was either ANX or ANZ on "loan" to MMA a a freight backup.

As for the F-28, 10,000 hours, Australia, France, Belgium, all 1000, 2000 3000 4000 types, great times.

[rog747]

I give up. How do you know that?

I expanded the photo and it certainly fits the JAT 707 idea - Also JAT flew many flights including charters to Australia, not just from BEG but other Yugo airports...
Their 707's and DC-10's were often seen ''down under...''
QF also had a 707 and 747 service through BEG.

[WingNut60]

I expanded the photo and it certainly fits the JAT 707 idea .......

Reason I asked is that when I blow it up I can see sweet Fanny Adams.

But admit that it does, sort of, match JAT.

[Sunfish]

I remember the infamous starter on the totally unreliable Garret APU. Some pilots apparently left the right engine running at outports rather than risk trying to use the APU.

[puff]

I remember coming into BN in the F28 in the jump - and ATC advised for as much speed as long as possible. We were doing something like 300kts at about 8 dme(don't quote me but we were motoring, but the wind noise was biblical) - and the Captain pulls max speed brake, gear and flaps on the limits, and pissed it in. Turned around and said, try that in a 737. She was a cool machine. With the F28 and the 146 around at the time, they said it was a sports car vs a gravel truck.

[Cilba]

Sunfish- I have no idea where that notion came from. I flew the F28 (with a couple of breaks) from 1986 until 2007. 17 different aircraft. During that time I never had the APU fail to start, and I found the unit to be totally reliable. We could operate under the MEL with the APU unserviceable, in which case the right hand engine was left running at turnarounds.

[Cilba]

Puff- quite right! At medium landing weights, and a ten knot headwind, 320 knots to 8 DME on a straight in approach was easily achievable. VMO was 330.

[Capn Bloggs]

I remember the infamous starter on the totally unreliable Garret APU. Some pilots apparently left the right engine running at outports rather than risk trying to use the APU.
I concur with Cilba. I don't recall any dramas with the APU in the F28 on the west coast in the 80s. Must have been an east-coast thing. ;) We may have had an "engine swap" procedure in case the APU wouldn't start but I never saw it. In the early days there was a procedure where another F28 would park skew-if across the rear end of the dead one, both connected by an bleed air pipe, to provide an air source to facilitate a rescue. I don't know whether that was still in fashion during the latter stages.

Flight controls = 10/10.

[ad-astra]

"Buddy Starts" were used quite regularly in Air Niugini up until the death throes of the type.
I have tried explaining the procedure to my current compatriots and their eyes just glazed over.
More regularly was setting forth on a 6 sector day around the islands with an unserviceable APU and the fun of 'hot refueling' at every stop.
No wonder we were thirsty at the end of the day.
9000 hours on the F-28 and only wish I could turn the clock back for a few more!
F-28 1000/3000/4000 didn't matter, it just wanted to be flown fast.
PNG and an F-28 were a perfect pair.

[B772]

Referred to as the pocket rocket by MV crews who had not flown jets previously. Most of the pilots moved up to the F28 from the F27.

[Sunfish]

Cilba: Sunfish- I have no idea where that notion came from. I flew the F28 (with a couple of breaks) from 1986 until 2007. 17 different aircraft. During that time I never had the APU fail to start, and I found the unit to be totally reliable. We could operate under the MEL with the APU unserviceable, in which case the right hand engine was left running at turnarounds.

By 1986 the APU had been fixed. Ansett went through about 60 broken APU starters by about 1980 and I was asked to find out what was going on. Turned out that the three little fingers of the APU starter clutch sometimes didn't disengage and when the APU fired up the poor little electric starter was over revved until it contacted the casing and failed. Garrett were a horrible company to deal with back then, even Boeing hated them, but they were the only commercial source of APUs at the time. I forget but somebody tried to make a substitute but it never took off.

[Ex FSO GRIFFO]

Derbs - Perth....
C3 280 ring any bells...??

[Capn Bloggs]

Referred to as the pocket rocket by MV crews who had not flown jets previously. Most of the pilots moved up to the F28 from the F27.
Indeed, and many from the DC-3>F27>F28. It must have been mind-blowing for them.

[Flingwing47]

As I recall the story told me when I started on the F28 in 1982, on the very first scheduled MMA flight from Perth on a cold winters morning there was a "moment" in the cockpit.
Two captains were operating (dangerous !) , both wearing their jackets - as the guy in the RH seat reached for the after start checklist, the cuff of his jacket caught the right engine FIRE handle and flipped it open.
As designed, this shut off the fuel - but to the LEFT engine ! Which of course shut down.
The investigation found that all the recent aircraft from the Fokker cottage industy factories had the wiring back the front....

[Cilba]

Sunfish- thank you for your prompt and informative reply. It is a bit of interesting history. Certainly all the while I flew the F28 I had no issues with the APU.

[Global Aviator]

Indeed, and many from the DC-3>F27>F28. It must have been mind-blowing for them.

Perfect natural progression!!! Envious of those days gone bye!

Ive only paxed on a 100...... loved the whine of the air tours 27’s.........

Ahhhhh the days gone bye.........

[krismiler]

I heard that the F28 was the only aircraft that could do Port Moresby - Lae in a straight line over the highlands, other aircraft would need an extended route as they couldn't climb and descend steeply enough. Can anyone confirm this ?

[Cilba]

I heard that the F28 was the only aircraft that could do Port Moresby - Lae in a straight line over the highlands, other aircraft would need an extended route as they couldn't climb and descend steeply enough. Can anyone confirm this ?
It certainly could. It was a remarkable aircraft when it came to its climb and descent capabilities, and its manoeuvrability when operated in the PNG highlands.

[Zhoottoo]

Carrier tough

In the early 1980’s, the US Navy put out a request for a new COD aircraft through the MMVX program. Various manufacturers tendered proposals, including Grumman, with an improved version of the C-2. Lockheed offered a new, turbofan design derived from the S-3 Viking, and a few unusual proposals.

Fokker Aircraft, of the Netherlands, proposed a derivative of their successful F28 regional airliner, called the F28 Mk.5000. McDonnell Douglas proposed a navalized version of the venerable DC-9-10 airliner, and lastly, it appears as if Boeing proposed a carrier modification of the 737-200. While it might seem odd operating an aircraft the size of an airliner off of the small flight deck of an aircraft carrier, the concept was proven as possible nearly 20 years before the start of the MMVX program.

In November 1963, the Navy conducted tests to see if the idea of a “Super COD” was possible. These dramatic tests saw a crew, led by Lt. James Flatley, land a KC-130 on the deck of the USS Forrestal 21 times with no tailhook, and take off with no catapult assistance. These tests, while a success, proved that the C-130 was too large of an aircraft to routinely operate off of a carrier, and the Navy in the end procured the C-2.

For this story, I want to take a closer look at the proposed airliners which were made to handle carrier operations.

http://www.airlinereporter.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/F-28-COD-web-640x400.jpg (http://www.airlinereporter.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/F-28-COD-web.jpg)
An artist’s representation of the F28 COD proposal landing on a carrier, from a Fokker sales brochure – Image: Fokker

With the Fokker MMVX proposal, a special STOL (Short Take Off and Landing) version of the F28 was penned. It featured redesigned landing gear that could extend to raise the nose of the aircraft, thus increasing the wing’s angle of attack to improve takeoff distance during a catapult launch, a tailhook, and a slightly redesigned wing that could fold for easier storage on the deck of the ship.

http://www.airlinereporter.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Fokker-F-28C-Multimission-brochure_Page_16-640x441.png (http://www.airlinereporter.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Fokker-F-28C-Multimission-brochure_Page_16.png)
Another drawing from a Fokker sales brochure, highlighting the modifications to enable carrier operations – Image: Fokker

Instead of the standard Rolls Royce Spey turbofans that powered the standard F28, Fokker proposed to replace the engines with either Rolls Royce Tays from the F100, or a non-afterburning variant of the GE F404 turbofan that powered the F-18 Hornet.

Another feature that Fokker proposed was adding refueling pods to underwing hard points. This capability would allow the plane to refuel two fighters at once, doubling the previous carrier tanker’s capacity. Fokker went as far as demonstrating the performance of a stock F28 to the US Navy on a simulated carrier deck, but orders were not forth coming.

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[Old Fella]

"Buddy Starts" were used quite regularly in Air Niugini up until the death throes of the type.
I have tried explaining the procedure to my current compatriots and their eyes just glazed over.
More regularly was setting forth on a 6 sector day around the islands with an unserviceable APU and the fun of 'hot refueling' at every stop.
No wonder we were thirsty at the end of the day.
9000 hours on the F-28 and only wish I could turn the clock back for a few more!
F-28 1000/3000/4000 didn't matter, it just wanted to be flown fast.
PNG and an F-28 were a perfect pair.
Buddy Starts are not the sole province of the F28. The C130 has had a "Buddy Start" procedure throughout its various model lives. Positioning the prop blades on the inoperative starter engine and having a "Buddy" C130 parked in front run up to a power setting high enough to get the propeller on the "sick starter" engine rotating to provide a start. Also used a "Windmill Taxi Start" procedure if no "Buddy" around. Practised it a few times at RAAF Richmond, 7000' runway length. A bit hairy, but worked.

[ACMS]

As I recall the story told me when I started on the F28 in 1982, on the very first scheduled MMA flight from Perth on a cold winters morning there was a "moment" in the cockpit.
Two captains were operating (dangerous !) , both wearing their jackets - as the guy in the RH seat reached for the after start checklist, the cuff of his jacket caught the right engine FIRE handle and flipped it open.
As designed, this shut off the fuel - but to the LEFT engine ! Which of course shut down.
The investigation found that all the recent aircraft from the Fokker cottage industy factories had the wiring back the front....


wow Fokker!!


Not an F-28 but on our F-50’s we had a ( false ) Fire warning after landing in CBR and discharged an Engine Fire bottle in the left Engine. Later the Engineers asked us if we’d fired the bottles, seems the discharge light reset after the batteries were switched off and when you turned the batteries on again there was no discharge light.....Meaning any of the F-50’s could have been flying with empty bottles. All F-50’s grounded again, the only way was to weigh them until Fokker fixed the problem...

Damn little Fokkers....

[Mk 1]

I heard that the F28 was the only aircraft that could do Port Moresby - Lae in a straight line over the highlands, other aircraft would need an extended route as they couldn't climb and descend steeply enough. Can anyone confirm this ?

As a kid I was pax on a few of these flights. We took off, climbed at some absurd angle (so it seemed), leveled off at cruise, the F/A's raced down the isle, handing out drinks, then back to collect (about 5 mins level flight), then the plummet into Nadzab. Exciting stuff when you are 10.

[Fantome]

there was a photo in the West Australian of an MMA F28 flying around PER with the door wide open . . .i.e. hanging down. that is where it remained for the landing.

[ad-astra]

Quickest Regular International Jet service I have ever flown was between Vanimo,PNG and Sentani, Papua in an F28.
Under 50 NM .............and always seemed to be flown at 300 Kts or faster and by the Captain.
4 HF calls and 3 VHF calls to be made before the PNG/Papua border (18 NM) which may explain the sector selection!

[ad-astra]

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[Buster Hyman]

"Ladies and Gentlemen. As the rest of the Crew & I consider PHE to be a $hit hole, we won't be landing there however, if PHE is your final destination..."

[Dora-9]

One G. D. on an early morning departure from Perth. Allegedly couldn't see the "Door Open" light because of sunlight streaming at a low angle into the cockpit. It must have messed up the FA's hair!

[krismiler]

That shows the strength of the aircraft and the standard it was built too, on nearly any other type the door would have been torn off and likely impacted the wing or tailplane on its way.

To have even been considered for aircraft carrier use it would have to have been a solid piece of kit, deck landings are basically controlled crashes.

[HOBAY 3]

Just adding DPO-SYD to the F28 routes of years gone by, which was operated by EastWest.

[Dora-9]

That shows the strength of the aircraft and the standard it was built too, on nearly any other type the door would have been torn off and likely impacted the wing or tailplane on its way.


In that respect, a typical Fokker. Not sure about the door being "torn off", they never got very fast anyway. There was great concern as to what would happen when the door contacted the ground on landing, but it simply rose up.

[High 6]

Someone said earlier the F28 and PNG flying were a perfect combination. How absolutely true. Flying VFR circuits at most destinations due to no nav aids, all that power and that awesome speed brake to help fix the profile, short sectors and plenty of them to perfect your manual flying skills and being young and flying for the love of the job... those are my memories of my 2.5 years command on the type before sadly transferring to the transport fleet.

Doing visual circuits for RW 12 inside the caldera at Rabaul was always one good way to end a long day and work up a thirst for a bevvy at the Grotty Yachtie. It was a magnificent machine that still remains my most favourite episode of flying ever!!

[cooperplace]

727-277 VH-RMV 314 SOB Aviation in the Aftermath of Cyclone Tracy (http://www.adastron.com/cyclone-tracy/tracy.htm)

and that list mentions 500 in a C130!!

[Valdiviano]

Flew the F28 and the L188
I was fortunate
Great people, Great aeroplanes, Great times.

[Fris B. Fairing]

and that list mentions 500 in a C130!!

And that list also says "on several flights"

[Stationair8]

Don’t forget the two F28’s operated by DCA/DoT/ CAA, for navaid calibration.

[markis10]

However, inhabitants of OZ did not see many 1-11's to experience the racket...

saw enough of them compliments of the RAAF and Air Pacifc

[B772]

Stationair8. There were 3 x F28-1000 for navaid calibration. VH-ATD, ATE and ATG.

[Propstop]

Many good memories of F28. Worked on them in Australia PNG and Libya. Operated from sealed, coral gravel and sand runways without a problem

[Stationair8]

Thanks for that B772, were the three aircraft based at Essendon?

Don’t forget the Lloyd Aviation F28 VH-LAR, to service the Moomba operation.

[Fris B. Fairing]

Also let us not forget the Air Niugini F28s that operated between Brisbane and Port Moresby for three years. A good aeroplane saddled with the weight of expectation that it might be able to replace the mighty B707.

[Capt Fathom]

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Air Safety Digest Sept 1987

[greybeard]

Not a low pass, taken just as the gear doors closed.
Tennant Creek 07 when we were doing the centre runs

[triadic]

The photographer was a Flight Service Officer at TC at the time and took lots of great pictures. I believe that pic is of one of the CAA aircraft. VH-ATD perhaps? In that edition of the digest it is promoted as never too late for a missed approach.

[Capt Fathom]

VH-FKG Airlines of Western Australia in the 'kangaroo paw' livery. About to put all the TODA to good use! :E

[On eyre]

The photographer was a Flight Service Officer at TC at the time and took lots of great pictures. I believe that pic is of one of the CAA aircraft. VH-ATD perhaps? In that edition of the digest it is promoted as never too late for a missed approach.

FSO by the name of Brenton Hollitt. Having dinner with him in Adelaide tomorrow night 🍷🍷

[B772]

Yes VH-FKG at TCA. Purchased secondhand from France this a/c needed lots of work before it entered service with Ansett. The a/c spent more than 3 months in the MEL workshops. During a test flight at MEL the a/c attempted to roll on its back. After being withdrawn from Ansett service in 1989 the a/c was sold and operated by Horizon Airlines in the US for a further 8 years before being retired and scrapped.

[Oldfart MCY]

Spent quite a few hours in that rotten jump seat! It's about the only thing I don't have a photo of.
Could anyone oblige with a photo of the seat please?
What a magic aeroplane!