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skieskitty
25th Jul 2019, 07:25
Dear all,

I wonder if anyone could give me a helping hand for checking a person is captain or not ?

Thank you very much.

flyboyike
25th Jul 2019, 23:27
That depends.

B2N2
26th Jul 2019, 01:27
All the obvious jokes aside, somebody claiming he is an “airline captain” ?

extreme P
26th Jul 2019, 02:23
lol. Just post the name. We'll know in five minutes or less.

skieskitty
26th Jul 2019, 10:14
Thank you NutLoose. Due to the urgency and importance, by no means have to post the name here. Hope you could understand. And is that linkedlin page real?

flyboyike
26th Jul 2019, 11:13
Thank you NutLoose. Due to the urgency and importance, by no means have to post the name here. Hope you could understand. And is that linkedlin page real?

May I be so forward and bold as to ask that you do us the honor of informing us what the urgency is? I'm sure more than a few of us are curious.

skieskitty
26th Jul 2019, 11:18
He has joined the United Nations as contract pilot for more than two years in Yemen and he would be put on the list of upcoming mission there, which would be dangerous. Hope you all give a helping hand. Thank you very much.

NutLoose
26th Jul 2019, 14:18
I googled him and the link came up, I see the linikin link has gone, perhaps contact those he flew with and ask if he has flown with them.
this them?

skieskitty
26th Jul 2019, 15:06
I have sent emails to those links and ask for information. And he has been working in the British Airway and Lufthansa before. I am not sure the above information could help to locate him and ensure his safety. For the linkedlin's link, it is known that it has been cancelled.

skieskitty
2nd Aug 2019, 04:52
Would the UN train the contract pilot or it is the responsibility of the agencies to handle? As I know UN would outsource the contract for recruiting pilots. Not sure if any professional pilots know the details? Thank you very much.

wiggy
2nd Aug 2019, 12:19
...And he has been working in the British Airway and Lufthansa before.

Now if he/she is claiming to have flown as a pilot for both airlines that somewhat narrows things down just a bit...are you able to give us a rough idea of his/her age.

skieskitty
3rd Aug 2019, 07:07
his age is 39.

Manwell
3rd Aug 2019, 09:36
skieskitty, this is interesting. Do you work for the UN as a pilot or crew?

wiggy
3rd Aug 2019, 11:36
his age is 39.

Thanks... I'd need to confirm/open to correction but I've heard tell that in the dim very distant past there were a limited number of short term secondments from BA to Lufthansa, however it was a heck of a long time ago and if it did happen anyone involved I'm fairly sure would now be a lot older that 39.

If OTOH someone claimed to have been a fully contracted pilot at mainline Lufthansa and then mainline BA, (or the other way round), had a command at one and/or the other, and was now at the tender age of 39 opting out to fly in the Yemen my alarm bells would be ringing... I guess it's not impossible but it's certainly an outlier when it comes to career paths.

I suppose another option is that is something subtle is being lost in translation? For example if the individual is claiming "he has been working in the British Airway and Lufthansa before" has he actually claimed he was working as a pilot, or has he let other people draw that conclusion? When he says "British Airways" does he actually mean BA Cityflyer?

skieskitty
3rd Aug 2019, 16:59
Dear Wiggy,

As far as I know, he is not a commercial pilot now and has worked in BA then to Lufthansa. He has flown Boeing 747-400F, Airbus 380, Boeing 757-200, Boeing 777-300ER at that time and.he said it was given or take 10 to 12 years. Before that, he has attended two flight schools before (CAE Oxford Aviation Academy and Flying Academy). I am not sure whether he has been a fully contracted pilot at mainline Lufthansa and mainline BA. After that, he said he has applied posts of war/military bases. For his duties in the UN as a contract pilot (I am not a pilot/crew for UN), he has delivered humanitarian goods, food, mosquito nets and medical aids for war victims.

And he is a Hong Kong-Korean and his name is Williams S. Chu. I wish if anyone here knows about him. Thank you very much.

FlightDetent
3rd Aug 2019, 19:36
The curriculum you post is definitely fake.

ConwayBorders
3rd Aug 2019, 19:40
Is there any reason why the employer sending this person to Yemen can't check the guy's reference themselves? It's standard procedure to confirm previous employment, especially for jobs requiring security clearance.

skieskitty
4th Aug 2019, 04:47
As far as I know, he has left both airlines and applied posts in the warzone/military base. And after searching the threads here, I know there are posts from those pilots working in UN but I have no idea how to link up with them for more information. As the UN would outsource the contracts of pilots to other agencies for recruiting so the terms and conditions would be a bit different I guess, and his contract would be around two to three years.

Hope if there are any pilots working for the UN that could provide more information. Thank you very much.

wiggy
4th Aug 2019, 11:42
BA then to Lufthansa. He has flown Boeing 747-400F, Airbus 380, Boeing 757-200, Boeing 777-300ER at that time and.he said it was given or take 10 to 12 years.

I'm a great believer in "never say never" so I'll simply say that's an impressive CV given the supposed timescale and the way many airlines now don't like pilots frequently changing types (though some moves can be forced moves provoked by a fleet being phased out).

It's not clear (to me) where he flew what type but FWIW BA Mainline have never operated the 747-400F (though I have just belated remembered that GSS (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Supply_Systems) operated them in BA colours) and BA's 777 fleet pilots fly both -200s and -300s..if somebody was going around claiming to have been specifically a 777-300 pilot at BA I really would be having my doubts.. .

Best of luck with resolving this.

skieskitty
4th Aug 2019, 15:19
Wiggy, I understand what you mean. It is better to let anybody know him on both airlines to confirm as I am not an expert in this area. After all, safety is a priority.

Jetset 88
7th Aug 2019, 07:41
Ask the person where his ATPL (flying licence needed to be a captain) was issued and when. Then ask him when he first started flying and ask again for what his total number of Flying Hours are. Most hard-working airline pilots don’t achieve many more than 1000 per year and that is the result of much hard, tiring work too. Knowing where he was based and where he lived whilst at each base might give a few clues also.

Out Of Trim
8th Aug 2019, 13:52
Have the UN seen his personal Log Books and Licences?