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Funny Farmer
3rd Jul 2019, 11:51
Hi I am new to PPRUNE so I hope this is the place to post this question. I have one of the old brown Private pilots licences, I was a keen flyer up until about 15 years ago but haven't flown since. I have around 700 hours, a night rating, RT licence etc at the time I stopped flying I was part way through a CPL course and had passed the ATPL written.

I just want to get back to being able to hire a PA28 or similar just for daytime VFR use with family and friends. I've have looked at the information on the CAA Webb site and frankly just got confused. Does anyone know what I need to do to revalidate my licence?, thank you in advance.

BEagle
3rd Jul 2019, 14:06
Assuming you wish to continue flying a PA-28 (which is an 'EASA aeroplane') after Apr 2020:

1. Complete refresher flight training as required.
2. Pass an SEP Class Rating Proficiency Check.
3. Obtain a Class 2 Medical Certificate.
3. Apply to the CAA for issue of a Part-FCL PPL with SEP Class Rating.

Other options are currently available, such as a 'Pilot Medical Declaration' - but the long term future of that cannot be assured. By the time you get your licence, the PPL will also include LAPL privileges, so you will be able to let a Class 2 medical drop to LAPL medical level and fly under LAPL restrictions (2000 kg MTOM, no more than 4 PoB, VFR only).

The old brown PPL will not be valid for flying PA-28s after Apr 2020; even if you had it re-issued, it would only be valid for flying non-EASA aircraft (e.g. Chipmunk, Tiger Moth) after that date.

As far as written exams are concerned, the only one you might have to resit is the Communications (PPL) exam if your FRTOL had an expiry date - but your training organisation should be able to advise further.

piperboy84
3rd Jul 2019, 15:36
Or,, As the OP’s handle implies he’s a farmer, it’s throw some fuel in the old gal, firewall the throttle and away you go! Just like riding a bike.

Funny Farmer
4th Jul 2019, 05:27
Assuming you wish to continue flying a PA-28 (which is an 'EASA aeroplane') after Apr 2020:

1. Complete refresher flight training as required.
2. Pass an SEP Class Rating Proficiency Check.
3. Obtain a Class 2 Medical Certificate.
3. Apply to the CAA for issue of a Part-FCL PPL with SEP Class Rating.

Other options are currently available, such as a 'Pilot Medical Declaration' - but the long term future of that cannot be assured. By the time you get your licence, the PPL will also include LAPL privileges, so you will be able to let a Class 2 medical drop to LAPL medical level and fly under LAPL restrictions (2000 kg MTOM, no more than 4 PoB, VFR only).

The old brown PPL will not be valid for flying PA-28s after Apr 2020; even if you had it re-issued, it would only be valid for flying non-EASA aircraft (e.g. Chipmunk, Tiger Moth) after that date.

As far as written exams are concerned, the only one you might have to resit is the Communications (PPL) exam if your FRTOL had an expiry date - but your training organisation should be able to advise further.
Thanks for that, looks pretty straight forward, I'll get a medical arranged 👍