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Double Back
5th Jun 2019, 06:09
In a discussion about (elevator) stops in Cessnas I refer often to a sickening crash that happened 35-40 (?) years ago.
The twin Cessna flew single piloted to a location (Bermuda? Not sure) to pick up a full load of pax.
He arrived OK, loaded and departed.
The plane was seen to pitch up after T/O and crash, killing all aboard.

Investigation showed the unsecured Elev. down stop had worked itself loose during the positioning flight. Because of the CG shift backwards now nose down trim or elev. input was needed.
But the elev surface was blocked to do so by the limiting screw.

Does anyone remember that crash so I can look it up? I cannot remember the exact type.

nonsense
5th Jun 2019, 09:53
Twin Cessna, Bermuda, 2001, but pitch down, not up, and not because of an unsecured elevator stop:
https://www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.aviation/brief.aspx?ev_id=20010907X01905&key=1

Double Back
5th Jun 2019, 11:19
"nonsense",
Thanks for trying to help out, but I know about that crash, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Aaliyah as one of the pax was the then famous and promising female singer Aaliyah.
However this was one of overload, wrong CG, invalid licence and a history of drug related crimes from the pilot.

As told, I am not sure it did happen at Bermuda, but it was definite the loose stop screw that caused it.
And it happened way before the 2001 crash, possible 10 years or even longer before.

Richard

TowerDog
5th Jun 2019, 11:57
Bahamas, not Bermuda.

Accident occurred Saturday, August 25, 2001 in Marsh Harbour, Bahamas
Aircraft: Cessna 402B, registration: N8097W
Injuries: 9 Fatal.

Old Boeing Driver
5th Jun 2019, 15:02
Maybe Cessna would have a record?