LAPL /PPL minimum requirements to fly solo and are training hours transferable?

[bjn201]

Hi There

I was wondering what are the minimum requirements in terms of exams/medicals/number of hours to start flying solo training towards my LAPL/PPL (i haven't yet decided which).

Also are dual instruction hours transferable between the LAPL and PPL? My instructor mentioned me might not think the training hours is transferable between LAPL instructors and PPL instructors or something.

NOTE I am NOT looking for advice/comments on PPL vs LAPL just the questions above!

But as note I am looking to start with the LAPL given less onerous medical/ ongoing requirements but might go for upgrade to the PPL in the future.

Thanks!

[Flyingbadge]

Each school has their own requirements, for eg passing the air law exam. With regards to hours, I don’t believe there are any minimums as far as I’m aware, when your instructor says you’re ready then you’re ready!

[BackPacker]

Legal requirements are just a medical and an instructor endorsement.

Note that typically schools have additional requirements, such as Air Low done & dusted. Also, an instructor endorsement is typically only valid for a specific flight, on a specific aircraft, on a specific date, and with a specific target in mind. Next flight, new endorsement.

[gordonquinn]

There is a defined lapl to ppl route which covers the differences in the syllabus. I undertook that this year, 15 hours min, 10 of which must be at an ATO, 6 dual and 4 solo I think. I had to do a GST and the 9 ground exams but I had went nppl > lapl > ppl which is slightly different.

So if you did complete the lapl syllabus then decide to change, it isn't too much of a hassle.

[xrayalpha]

As I understand, training hours are not directly transferable from LAPL to EASA PPL.

Even though you would use the same instructor and the same aircraft from the same airfield!

So the advice is - until you need the medical - to start out saying you want the EASA PPL. Then - perhaps you can only get a LAPL medical - those PPL hours will count for the LAPL.

The other way round, I don't think they do.

Of course, once you have a LAPL, there is a conversion course to a ESA SEP PPL.

[Whopity]

If the hours are taught by a EASA FI (inc Restricted) with no limitations on his FI rating, then the hours are interchangeable between either licence. Any training conducted by an FI with a "LAPL only limitation" are not transferable until all training for the LAPL has been completed. So in essence, it is the instructor limitation that makes the difference. There are a limited number of LAPL only instructors and if in doubt ask to see their licence.

[ChickenHouse]

The answers are quite easy. You don't have to mess around with reading laws or rely on unreliable internet tales. It is all in the authorized training handbook of the ATO. They have to outweigh laws, regulations, local specialities, FI level of expertise, liabilities etcetras. They have to write it down, get it signed off by the authorities and get audited on that. If you are interested, just approach the school and ask to get a look.

[BEagle]

In 2013 EASA agreed that training delivered during a LAPL course would be fully credited towards the PPL if the student decided to change to a PPL course.

In Dec 2016 when the UK CAA asked for confirmation, EASA changed its mind. Mainly because of the fact that some of the LAPL course might have been delivered by a LAPL-only FI.

Last year we heard that some MS evidently do allow the original EASA policy, whereas others including the UK do not.

EASA FS.TEC has now given unanimous support to the IAOPA (Europe) proposal I raised for all training given during a LAPL course to be credited to a PPL course. The proposal is now with EASA GA.COM.