Beoing CP resigns

[unitedabx]

ME, having re-validated his 747-400/800 rating has resigned as CP much to the disgust of his senior managers. Serving the bare minimum of 2 years in the seat he leaves in 3 months for an undisclosed job in AUS. Loyal to the end. They can't half pick'em. And the next joker is ?????

[Air Profit]

Hmmm, rather blows up the company narrative that "there isn't a resignation problem". When even your CP's are surreptitiously sliding out the door, there isn't much credibility left for any manager at a Fleet Forum parroting the rather farcical line that "all is will with recruiting and retention". To the rest of us, what more evidence do you need to realise that the time to leave is now, while there are other options available. Those options will eventually be gone.

[Flex88]

ME, having re-validated his 747-400/800 rating has resigned as CP much to the disgust of his senior managers. Serving the bare minimum of 2 years in the seat he leaves in 3 months for an undisclosed job in AUS. Loyal to the end. They can't half pick'em. And the next joker is ?????

The "cream" rises to the top right ?? Dedicated, deserving and well meaning right ??
Another opening for the next sycophant in line.
Me, me, me, me............

[Air Profit]

I don't think criticism of ME is warranted. He basically made a judgment call that his personal well-being is better served elsewhere. Perhaps a lesson the rest of us should heed. Good luck to him.

[plainpilot11]

One can absolutely not fault him. Working for some of those folks would be a tough gig. I guess we are learning a lesson. “Do as I do, not as I say.” The exodus continues in force, from the top. They’d better open up bases soon!!!! 😂

[Slasher1]

Ummmm no, sir--we don't have a retention problem.

'Scuse me, I've got an interview in an hour.

Sometimes it takes awhile to see and accept the situation as presented. Or you think you can fix things, adapt to them, or make them better (and later realize you cannot). Pilots are notorious at trying to be 'fixers.'

The imposition of POS 18 was a huge flare; the only question became "Would anyone actually sign up for this POS." But it showed the cards (or at least the cards Management was striving for). To date, got no idea if entrances are greater than exits or even if we can train those entering. But rather than strive for excellence, POS 18 shows race to the bottom. And management's "vision."

It's possible (through CC/TB/strike, industrial action, etc.) that reasonable conditions can be advanced and achieved. It'll probably take a strike but that's a guess and in the Sun Tzu mantra I'm not sure if folks have the balls to do this (then again, you get less to lose every day). But several years have happened between the time it was started and now; several years being generations in OTHER career airlines and for people who can work there (like in the US) it's booming. It just becomes a question of getting out of the Las Vegas syndrome, shelving your fears, and going for the gold. So IF you are here for a flying career, you probably need to be outta here like yesterday. If you are here to see some friends, chase some what not, beam around asia, see the world, and things not flying career oriented it might make sense to ride it out and pull the pin. Making life manageable in the process and figuring out a way to enjoy things (with the advance knowledge that little of this has to do with anything job related).

I'm not a mind reader, but I suspect many of us are driven and lured to be a part of something great, and for the thrill of building something worthwhile (whether or not it makes money or booms or busts isn't really an issue--you hope for a boom but if you don't get it that's historically not been a big dear; money is such a small thing that such a big deal is made over). The thrill of REAL flying. And toward the thrill of the feeling that comes with chasing these opportunities. To be a part of something (that one perceives) as being great. And this is one very destructive thing that's happened; management has killed this feeling here (despite the HUGE talent we have). So the only place to look is elsewhere.

It's all about the journey and I wish him good luck.

[Near Miss]

It's Boeing FFS. :ugh:

[Steve the Pirate]

It's Boeing FFS. :ugh:

Thank goodness someone's focussing on the real issue here.

STP

[Farman Biplane]

QF awaits........

[ardibee]

Good Luck in Perth! Most of us wish you the best!

[BlunderBus]

He's a decent guy and has been fair and professional to deal with. Good luck to him I wish him all the best.

[RAT Management]

Soooooo, who are the heroes who will be going into management? And more importantly who the hell would want to join the dark side now and be part of this confrontational management team?
Someone that would want to hide behind a cloak of invincibility as the axe of pain gets swung around lopping of unsuspecting pilots heads in an effort to make them heal to their master!

[unitedabx]

Also heard ( but unconfirmed ) a senior ( ie he has been in manangement for over 6 months ) Airbus manager is leaving on too. The advertised new positions will be filled by wannabees have no fear.

[Frogman1484]

Didn’t one airbus cp just suddenly leave?
does anyone know the story behind his sudden departure?

[Frogman1484]

The question I have is...did he leave because of another job or because he knows what management are trying to do next?

[unitedabx]

CP Boeing and his wife milked CX for all it was worth and now have pulled the plug. All the bull**** he spouted at fleet forums and lextures he gave to resignees total crap. Senior management left with egg all over their faces when one of their own jumps ship. Rumour has it two others to follow within a week. It's a shambles with PC looking very sheepish these days. Many have decided to jump before they are axed. Some say KA managers being recruited because they have always towed the company line. Interesting times.

[Hongkie land]

is he joining QF?

[PanZa-Lead]

When I resigned Mike was nothing but courteous and professional. I wish him and his family all the best for the future.

[1200firm]

Boeing.
747-8
Lectures.
Toeing the line. (putting one's toe on a line. Navy term)
FFS.

[The Bullwinkle]

Toeing the line. (putting one's toe on a line. Navy term)

I never knew that one.
You learn something new every day! :)​​​​​​​

[CxEx2]

I genuinely think Mike is a nice guy. He took on the role at a pretty **** time to be fair and who knows why, probably the money which is fair enough too. When I resigned he was great to talk to and wasn’t weird about it at all. Always approaches me and professional. Good luck to him

[Arfur Dent]

He's almost certainly had a two year look at the Leadership qualities of his superiors and decided to furnish himself a career populated by a bit more genuine talent. The most surprising element of this is that more Senior Execs in the FOPS Dept haven't done exactly the same thing.
Good on him and well done.

[mngmt mole]

Mike. You were always a gentleman in our dealings. Cant blame anyone for wanting to leave this toxic and stultifying place. Best wishes and good luck.

[Freehills]

Good for him

[Loopdeloop]

Where’s morningcoffee? Here’s finally something on Pprune to cheer him up!