Osm Aviation recruiting foreign pilots for US’s Airlines

[REMAX11]

Dear all,

i just saw an advert for foreign pilots recruitment in US:

https://www.aviationjobsearch.com/job/pilot-usa/10290331



Pilot Requirements
Have minimum 1500 documented flight hours
Have English proficiency ICAO 4 or greater
ATP License

Benefits

Green Card
Relocation allowance

Partial matching 401k

Health & dental insurance

Paid volunteer time

Paid leave

Paid Holidays

Start and end in your base every night

To address a pilot shortage in the U.S., OMS recently launched a program to recruit experienced foreign fixed wing pilots to work in the U.S., and in the process, be eligible to receive a green card for themselves and their family members


Time me to engage with Alpa?

[bafanguy]

Can't say I understand how OSM is doing this...or what "...be eligible to receive a green card ..." means. Seems like a tall promise.

What type of visa are they entering the country with until the alleged green card appears ?

What US company is taking these folks ?

[pilotchute]

I beleibe Cape Air are involved and you have to pay all legal costs and an "admin" fee of 30k USD
.

[bafanguy]

I beleibe Cape Air are involved...

Cape doesn't mention it on their website but that's not a surprise, I guess. I assume applicants have to have FAA tickets.

How do they get people in here with the legal ability to live/work ? That must involve some level of visa.

How does that translate to a green card ?

[pilotchute]

From what I can gather the barrier to green card sponsorship is the immense cost. So OSM literally charge you all the legal costs (taking a cut themselves) and get you employment.

I have actually emailed OSM about the scheme and that was what I got from them. Even though you pay all the costs they seem to think you owe them for the chance. They bond you to an airline for 4 years and if you leave before that kiss your money and green card goodbye.

[MarkerInbound]

The US Citizenship and Immigration Services web page says you can apply for a Green Card as the holder of an EB-3 visa. But there is still the requirement to show that qualified workers are not available.

[Daddy Fantastic]

OSM are absolute scum and running the Norwegian contract out of FLL.

Stay away from them, they are not to be trusted. Heard some horror stories from pilots who worked for them.

[bafanguy]

The US Citizenship and Immigration Services web page says you can apply for a Green Card as the holder of an EB-3 visa. But there is still the requirement to show that qualified workers are not available.

So Cape Air and this OSM outfit are bringing in people on an EB-3 visa and promising a green card ? I don't know how Cape Air can claim there are no US citizens available to take those jobs.

This statement is made for both "skilled workers" and "professionals":

"You must be performing work for which qualified workers are not available in the United States"

https://www.uscis.gov/working-united-states/permanent-workers/employment-based-immigration-third-preference-eb-3

I must be missing something.

[pilotchute]

The fact that some airlines already went under due to "pilot shortage" is probably all they need to say

[Ramjet555]

Its a pity that the E-B3 visa has been mentioned.

An E-B3 should not be confused with an E-3
Even forking out $1200 for priority processing it could be
a long time before it's issued and the requirements
are loaded with pitfalls that generally only can be prevented
by an immigration lawyer and even then, there
are no guarantees.

I've never heard of an Australian going the E-B3 route.

It sounds simple on the surface but is riddled with pitfalls
that require a lawyer that makes it a very expensive process.

[Ramjet555]

Just had a close look at their website and the warning bells go off.
You do not know where your resume and or documents will end up.

[BluSdUp]

You summed it up nicely.

Regards
Cpt B

[MarkerInbound]

The fact that some airlines already went under due to "pilot shortage" is probably all they need to say

"So Mr. Great Lakes, there are 154,000 ATP pilots and you can't find any?"

"Yes but we don't want to pay what 99.99 percent of them are being paid."

[there she blows]

Hi Guys,
Firstly it not the Norwegian outfit OSM,truly distasteful but a regulated government approved recruitment company OMS.
They are authorised to supply foreign workers to government schemes,for the benefit of us citizens.
The eas is one such scheme,and as such schemes are poorly paid, because of the associated benefits for the people the schemes are set up to help, the package on offer is below standard for the alpa and us pilots,a green card is on offer at sponsorship to fill this gap.
Therefore the primary objective of the scheme is fulfilled, the workers are eligible to fulfill the details of the scheme, and restrictions are in place to prevent misuse of the requirements.

[bafanguy]

Firstly it not the Norwegian outfit OSM,truly distasteful but a regulated government approved recruitment company OMS.
They are authorised to supply foreign workers to government schemes,for the benefit of us citizens.
The eas is one such scheme,and as such schemes are poorly paid, because of the associated benefits for the people the schemes are set up to help, the package on offer is below standard for the alpa and us pilots,a green card is on offer at sponsorship to fill this gap.
Therefore the primary objective of the scheme is fulfilled, the workers are eligible to fulfill the details of the scheme, and restrictions are in place to prevent misuse of the requirements.

there she blows,

Not sure I understand.

What US government agency approves/regulates this company, OMS ?

Do they supply foreign nationals to US companies in other industries ?

Are they providing foreign pilots to the US's Essential Air Service companies ? If so, which ones ? https://www.raa.org/page/EAS

[there she blows]

Hello bafanguy,
i think the answer to your questions lie not only in your link, but more importantly a simple investigation into ample information available from many sources online,
You are correct with your research on essential air service passed through Congress,
I am sure you have both the ability and motivation to pursue those questions, but if you are unable to “understand “ the gathering of correct information and utilising it in a clear and diagnostic format,
maybe it is time to chase those injuns out the back yard bud buddy?

[bafanguy]

Hello bafanguy,
i think the answer to your questions lie not only in your link, but more importantly a simple investigation into ample information available from many sources online,
You are correct with your research on essential air service passed through Congress,
I am sure you have both the ability and motivation to pursue those questions, but if you are unable to “understand “ the gathering of correct information and utilising it in a clear and diagnostic format,
maybe it is time to chase those injuns out the back yard bud buddy?

Ummm, OK, thank you for your input. :rolleyes:

[JA8957]

Can't post links due to my low post count but on cape air's website -> fly with us -> requirements -> scroll all the way down


"OMS Captain Hiring Requirements

FAA ATP License

FAA First Class Medical

Valid Passport"

Looks like this OMS scheme has popped up on this forum a few times before. Seems difficult to find anyone who could account for their experience of actually going through with them though.

[bafanguy]

JA8957,


Thanks...got it. :ok:

I haven't seen anyone say how many pilots Cape Air has employed this way.

[there she blows]

Bafanguy
umm thank you for your input!����

[wondering]

Thought would be fun to try. That´s why, I went through the trouble to fill out the application. What a waste of time. I got a couple of 1000 jet hours. Here is what´s on offer:

The position we have available is to fly a Cessna 402. Cape Air is sponsoring pilots to fly operation 135 Cessna 402. It is a 12 month contract with Cape Air, the pay rate is $17.50 an hour. A pilot is guaranteed 40 duty hours a week. An average first year Captain who takes advantage of overtime and flying incentives plus bonuses earned $79,782 a year. Cape Air’s base is in the Northeast, Caribbean, Midwest, Montana, Guam.(bases are available on www.capeair.com (https://deref-gmx.net/mail/client/JTtZgEpWImI/dereferrer/?redirectUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.capeair.com)). OMS helps pilot find employment in the U.S., and a petitioner for the green card. OMS manages the contracting process and ensures all the required contracts are executed properly. Filing of the case includes spouse and children under the age of 21. OMS offers shared housing for pilots to stay while they apply for SSN and obtain DL prior to initiating airline training. If applicable OMS coordinates flight training with third party to obtain a FAA ATP license. After pilot fulfils 12-month contract with sponsoring airline OMS can assist pilot in applying for another position with a different airline. How much does OMS charge?$3,000 administrative fee once pilot signs the contract, and $800 per month for 48 months (total $38,400) which commence when pilot begins working for the airline. Green Card is valid for 10 years within 5 years pilot may apply for citizenship. If you are interested in moving forward the next step is an interview with the OMS Pilot recruiter. Please let me know what day and time works best for your interview with the OMS recruiter.

Should you have any questions, feel free to contact me.

Needless to say, I cant be bothered to reply :eek:

[bafanguy]

Thought would be fun to try. That´s why, I went through the trouble to fill out the application. What a waste of time. I got a couple of 1000 jet hours. Here is what´s on offer:

The position we have available is to fly a Cessna 402. Cape Air is sponsoring pilots to fly operation 135 Cessna 402. It is a 12 month contract with Cape Air, the pay rate is $17.50 an hour. A pilot is guaranteed 40 duty hours a week. An average first year Captain who takes advantage of overtime and flying incentives plus bonuses earned $79,782 a year. Cape Air’s base is in the Northeast, Caribbean, Midwest, Montana, Guam.(bases are available on www.capeair.com (https://deref-gmx.net/mail/client/JTtZgEpWImI/dereferrer/?redirectUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.capeair.com)). OMS helps pilot find employment in the U.S., and a petitioner for the green card. OMS manages the contracting process and ensures all the required contracts are executed properly. Filing of the case includes spouse and children under the age of 21. OMS offers shared housing for pilots to stay while they apply for SSN and obtain DL prior to initiating airline training. If applicable OMS coordinates flight training with third party to obtain a FAA ATP license. After pilot fulfils 12-month contract with sponsoring airline OMS can assist pilot in applying for another position with a different airline. How much does OMS charge?$3,000 administrative fee once pilot signs the contract, and $800 per month for 48 months (total $38,400) which commence when pilot begins working for the airline. Green Card is valid for 10 years within 5 years pilot may apply for citizenship. If you are interested in moving forward the next step is an interview with the OMS Pilot recruiter. Please let me know what day and time works best for your interview with the OMS recruiter.

Should you have any questions, feel free to contact me.

Needless to say, I cant be bothered to reply :eek:

That's a LOT of money. That whole green card thing seems iffy. Can a company be that certain they can get you one under the circumstances offered ?

[cessna95]

EB-3 VISA is what OMS is offering. But yes the wait is up to 18 months.

[avi8safely]

Has anyone tried this program?
As a foreign first officer, this seems to be attractive enough.
I fly around 70 hours a month with maximum 10 day offs and make $6k including landing fee, per-diem, etc.
Would it be worth a try for green card?

[Far Canel]

Hi guys, Are any Capeair or any other Part 135 operators hiring Australians on E-3 visas if you have your FAA certicates?
thanks in advance

[avi8safely]

Hi guys, Are any Capeair or any other Part 135 operators hiring Australians on E-3 visas if you have your FAA certicates?
thanks in advance
I saw an airline hiring Australian pilots with E-3. Not sure it’s Part 135 operator though. Check Commutair out.

[zondaracer]

Commutair is 121.

[wooki]

$6K " What" US or Australian ?

[grummy]

OSM Aviation is a big scam! Don't fall for it.