Upset recovery training

[N.N.C]

In an effort to reduce upset incidents and accidents Boeing and Airbus together made an so called "Upset recovery training aid"

I am looking for this manual. Does any one know where to get one, or maybe anybody has access to a digital copy.
I am specifically looking for the pilot section.

Any idea's or suggestions??

N.N.C :confused:

[RadarContact]

Try contacting Airbus or Boeing directly. If you fly for an airline, have them contact Airbus or Boeing (better response-time probably ;) )

[Agent86]

Is this what you are after.

Boeing Site link (http://www.boeing.com/commercial/aeromagazine/aero_03/textonly/fo01txt.html)


Some good stuff in this.

Max

[PPRuNe Dispatcher]

Aerodynamic Principles of large-airplane upsets :
http://www.airbus.com/customer/fastspecial.asp

Mik

[Cornish Jack]

I have previously referred to a training video which covers this, and associated problem areas (CFIT,Cross-over speeds, control malfunctions, Micro-bursts etc.), in an exceptionally well presented and easily assimilated way. We used it at my last company as a standard component of refresher traning and I can recall nothing other than enthusiasm for the contents. It isn't the whole answer since the problems require PRACTICAL training but it is a superb introduction and a number of the concepts came as totally new areas of operation for some crews.

[ooizcalling]

I know that video too. If it's the same one as Cornish Jack is talking about then it is :-

Advanced Maneuvering Training (AMT) presented by a Captain Warren VanderBurg of American Airlines.

Try to get it, it's worth the trouble !:)

[411A]

Wonder if the good Captain at AA is now saying....stay OFF the rudder, least it break off?:rolleyes: :eek: :(

[N.N.C]

Thanks for your replies. I have the AMT video with Capt Vanden Berg fm AA.

Does anyone have information as to the specific contents of the
pilot section of the Airbus/Boeing Upset recovery training aid??

Very eager waiting for info.:p

[Cornish Jack]

No 411A, I doubt that Capt Van has to add ANYTHING to an excellent training video. His considerations on the INAPPROPRIATE use of rudder both in respect to situation AND aircraft TYPE (e.g.MD11) are both timely and as practical as the rest of the videos. He makes extremely valid points in respect of the major difference between control authority on Mil jets and the civilian passenger aircraft. His presentation is a prime example of how someone who really understands his subject matter is able to present fairly complex aerodynamic and performance information in a way that is simple to follow. Furthermore, he manages never to 'talk down' to his audience (live, by the way) and could be used as an ideal model for some of the more self-opinionated 'pundits' of the aviation profession....... and this forum :(

[john_tullamarine]

Having used both Boeing and Airbus videos in this area, the relevant Airbus video is a superb instructional aid..... if your training department doesn't have a copy, then you ought to push for it to obtain one ...