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emmjayy

29th Nov 2017, 00:57

Hello Everyone,

I'd like to start out by saying I have read and searched through many threads on this forum and others with regards to all the different options for flight schools here in Vancouver and surrounding areas. The vast majority of the information I can find is either very conflicting, or quite dated and most likely not too relevant for present day. I am hoping to get some insight from folks on here with some first hand knowledge of the schools in this area. I am trying to decide on a flight school for my PPL, CPL and Multi/IFR training starting hopefully in January or February of 2018. I am located in North Vancouver and have primarily been looking at schools out of Boundary Bay and Pitt Meadows due to their proximity. I plan on doing my training on a full time basis and ideally would like to fly 5-6 days/week (weather permitting).

I have been out to visit both Pacific Flying Club and Professional Flight Center (PRO-IFR) out at Boundary Bay. I had quite a good experience at Pacific when I dropped by. The lady at the front was great with answering all my questions and an instructor who happened to be near by took the time to take me out and show me some of their fleet which I appreciated. There are mixed reviews for this school with many people seeming very happy with all the training they have received there, others have complaints of scheduling issues and having their flights bumped for the BCIT program students which I find a bit troubling.

When I dropped into Professional Flight Center I didn't feel I got quite the same attention and enthusiasm that I received when stopping by Pacific but I did show up unannounced and they seemed quite busy so I don't put a whole ton of stock into that necessarily. Out of all the schools I've researched this one seems to have the most universally positive reviews of the schools in the area which is quite encouraging. Professional also have teamed up with Douglas college so I'm curious if they may have the same scheduling issues as Pacific with regards to getting bumped out of a booked time for a program student.

I have also heard quite good things about Pacific Rim Aviation out at Pitt Meadows although I have not been out to visit them yet. Also depending on what you're reading and who you ask there seems to be no great consensus on which of the two airports is best to train out of. Some say training at Boundary Bay was very beneficial as it gave them invaluable busy airport experience, others say to only consider Pitt Meadows/Langley as they are so much closer to the training area and you are not paying for travel time.

Essentially what I would like to get is some real world knowledge from some recent or current students or instructors who might be able to provide a bit more insight into what school in this area might fit with what I am looking for.

Thanks for your time,

MJ

Aly.S

30th May 2018, 22:17

Hello everyone,

Sorry to be bumping this thread after that much time, but MJ asked all the same questions I have. Any information or recommendations out there about flight schools in the Vancouver area. I'm looking to get my multi-engine instrument and CPL training. I'll be hopping over from Europe so visiting before hand might not be feasible,

I'll be mainly relying on reputation and what feedback I can dig up. I've done a few searches on the forum but haven't been able to come up with anything relevant and/or recent. I'm also interested in hearing about Pacific Flying Club and Professional Flight Centre. Hope someone can give me some pointers.

Thanks,
Al

Nil.

11th Oct 2018, 20:32

I have the same issue. Any feedback about flying school in Raincouver Area would be appreciated as I plan to do my fight training next year as an international student.
thanks!

rigpiggy

21st Oct 2018, 00:30

I love vancouver, however, i would go someplace less crowded with better weather"sun for the upcoming months

CrossCanadaMark

14th Nov 2018, 17:49

flash8

16th Nov 2018, 22:34

What about the Victoria Flying Club- is this a good place to get a PPL, and then do Commercial somewhere else? Or would it be better to do everything at the same place, such as Diamond Flight Centre, etc.

Yes, was going to suggest VFC... great club... also based at an International Airport.... spent many a happy time there (in the mid/late 90's though)... Victoria is very quiet/sleepy..... but many folk like this... oh just seen looks like you are already in Vic!

Nil.

17th Nov 2018, 06:46

Yes, was going to suggest VFC... great club... also based at an International Airport.... spent many a happy time there (in the mid/late 90's though)... Victoria is very quiet/sleepy..... but many folk like this... oh just seen looks like you are already in Vic!
Thank you Flash8, I prefer "quiet places" I was thinking and researching over VFC. I would be glad to have more feedback about this flying club. I plan to do my CPL and FI and work as an instructor.
Thanks guys!

flash8

17th Nov 2018, 18:37

Thank you Flash8, I prefer "quiet places" I was thinking and researching over VFC. I would be glad to have more feedback about this flying club. I plan to do my CPL and FI and work as an instructor.
Thanks guys!
When I were there for the PPL (and part of CPL) the instructors and aircraft were first rate, with the benefit of operating from a small but International Airport (in those days mostly 737-200's, 146's and Dash 8's so will have changed!) - and the city is beautiful, quiet, peaceful and crime is almost non-existent - in fact it probably is one of the safest cleanest cities on the planet... everyone knows each other it seemed... (I was there three years in total). I totally recommend the city if you are looking for safety, quiet and laid back. I loved it but left in search of adventure ))))

Not sure about FI opportunities... probably limited... post CPL/IR perhaps one of the local Twotter seaplane operators for work? Dunno... they didn't like me but that was way back )))))

If you are into "quiet" it is like another world compared to Vancouver.... you will think they are different planets!

Takira101

9th Dec 2018, 14:48

Hi,

I did all of my training in the Vancouver area.
I can give you some info regarding my experiences with some of the flight schools there.
First bit of advice. DO NOT choose Professional Flight Center. Do not be fooled. They want your money. Period. Very unprofessional operation. Stay away!

lonalde

2nd Jan 2019, 07:03

Hey Takira101,

Would love to hear some input from you. I was looking at the ATPL integrated in Europe but was met with very mixed opinions. I'm thinking of maybe just heading back to Vancouver (my home) and trying out pilot schools there. Do you have any recommendations? Not really sure which path/route is best since I have no prior experience except for doing a discovery flight back in high school.

pilot1234567

3rd Jan 2019, 04:05

Takira101

18th Jan 2019, 10:35

Takira101

18th Jan 2019, 10:37

Lonalde,

I would be happy to offer any advice I can. Drop me a line at [email protected]

flyingcrankshaft

25th Feb 2019, 13:11

Hey,

Does any one have info on Canadian Flight Centre?

Takira101

28th Feb 2019, 10:00

At Boundary Bay I recommend both CFC and PFC. Your best bet is to walk into both and have a sitdown. Get a feel for the school and depending on how good or bad your are treated when you walk in you can decide which school you would rather train at, and more importantly, give your money to. I recommend walking in without out an appointment and see how you are treated. This will give you the best idea regarding the schools “culture” and general atmosphere. You should be welcomed and they should be happy to sit down with you and discuss your training goals. If you walk into any school where the staff / instructors dont seem interested in talking to you or act like they are too busy, LEAVE AND GO TO ANOTHER SCHOOL. Please let me know how it goes.

Ilyushin76

28th Feb 2019, 17:20

miramis

18th Mar 2019, 12:41

Hi! I am bumping this thread, also looking for flight schools in that area. I am Swedish but consider pursuing my pilot career in Canada, very into seaplanes and vancouver is def the place to be then!

Keep me updated on how y'all do with choice of schools etc :) i'm at least 6 months away from studying (saving up money still).

Just curious, how old are you guys? I feel like i might be getting too old to pursue this dream.. just turned 29

+TSRA

18th Mar 2019, 15:23

I feel like i might be getting to old to pursue this dream.. just turned 29

You're only too old in aviation if you don't maintain realistic aspirations. I routinely train new pilots at the airlines who are entering their second career in their 50's.

As everyone's dreams are different, it's hard to say whether you are "too old." If your dream is to do float flying for the rest of your career then no, you're not too old. If, however, your dream is to be #1 on the seniority list at a major international airline and also want to have 3 to 5 years on the top of the pay scale then yes, that ship has likely sailed and you're not going to realize your dreams.

Ilyushin76

18th Mar 2019, 18:26

Takira101

21st Mar 2019, 02:25

You're only too old in aviation if you don't maintain realistic aspirations. I routinely train new pilots at the airlines who are entering their second career in their 50's.

As everyone's dreams are different, it's hard to say whether you are "too old." If your dream is to do float flying for the rest of your career then no, you're not too old. If, however, your dream is to be #1 on the seniority list at a major international airline and also want to have 3 to 5 years on the top of the pay scale then yes, that ship has likely sailed and you're not going to realize your dreams.

Sums it up pretty well. A little extreme however. If your reason for wanting to become a pilot is to become #1 on the seniority list, then I would question your reasoning. If you want to become a pilot for the great pay, I would recommend another industry. However, out of all the people I meet who want to fly for a career, no one has ever mentioned salary or seniority as a reason. Lets get real guys, being a pilot flying planes for a living is not only an awsome thing to be, it is also just plain cool. That is enough of a reason to want a career in aviation.

As for the question of age, the previous reply said it perfectly. It all comes down to what your goal is. I have met guys who have retired from boring careers in their 50s, got a float rating and lived out their days flying float planes in the wilderness. I have met guys in their early 20s who just want to instruct and fly for small operations in their local area. I also met a kid who had his first solo before 16 and is now a big shot airline pilot. Etc. etc.

The short answer for YOU is; 29 too old? You are crazy! Finish your training in a timely manner and you could be flying for a major airline before your 40th birthday. There are numerous career paths for pilots and, at 29, most of those paths are still wide open for you. Any thoughts of 29 being too late to start are wrong and should be put completly out of your mind. I assure you that your age is not an issuse. I don’t have all answers, but let me know if you have any questions or concers about your future training or career path.

miramis

24th Mar 2019, 11:08

Thanks for the replies! You have given me hope :)

Aly.S

5th Apr 2019, 08:54

I have heard good things about the IFR methods at ProIRF. My comments are more regarding their business in general. I have delt with them on a few occasions and was disapointed each time. I would anyone thinking of doing their flight training there should STAY AWAY.

Hi Takira,

Could you perhaps give some specifics? I've only dealt with them by mail so far and they've been pretty thorough and patient answering my 1001 questions.

Otherwise I'm still looking for recent feedback from all of the aforementioned schools: ProIFR, CFC, PFC, VFC. Specifically relating to IFR and CPL training. I'll be visiting BC for a week this July so hope to visit a few of them, ideally even get checked out and rent a plane for a day or two. Also open to any feedback about other schools anywhere in BC.

On another note, what does the job market look like in BC at the moment? Can a newly minted commercial pilot realistically expect to find employment other than instructing? What level of income can one expect starting off? An important detail if you might have loan payments to make ;-)

Cheers

Takira101

6th Apr 2019, 01:57

Hi Takira,

Could you perhaps give some specifics? I've only dealt with them by mail so far and they've been pretty thorough and patient answering my 1001 questions.

Otherwise I'm still looking for recent feedback from all of the aforementioned schools: ProIFR, CFC, PFC, VFC. Specifically relating to IFR and CPL training. I'll be visiting BC for a week this July so hope to visit a few of them, ideally even get checked out and rent a plane for a day or two. Also open to any feedback about other schools anywhere in BC.

On another note, what does the job market look like in BC at the moment? Can a newly minted commercial pilot realistically expect to find employment other than instructing? What level of income can one expect starting off? An important detail if you might have loan payments to make ;-)

Cheers

Hi,

As I tell everyone I give advice to regarding flight schools, YOUR experience may be different. You may end up having a positive experience, as I am sure some others have. Also, your instructor can make all the difference. A great instructor can make up for a poor school.

Whenever asked about proifr I always advise people to stay away. Someone else on this forum described the owner as a “used car salesmen”, which is a perfect characterization. He is smooth talking and charming. However, I have known several people who have worked as instructors there. Their main focus is on profit. They will get you in their aircrafts flying as much as possible. In other words, have you fly more than necessary. Furthermore, they will be very friendly when first meeting you. They will tell you everything you want to hear. They will also tell you about how they can help you get a job after completing your training. This is a lie. They have ZERO interest in helping you get a job. Beware when speaking with a woman named Shannon. If she says,” our owner John Montgomery is well tapped into the industry......”, you are being “worked”. Like most businesses, they will say whatever they have to to get you to sign up and give them your money. After that, you will notice that they are not so interested in you anymore. I personally dealt with them a few times. The guy at the dispatch counter acted like he was annoyed to be there, and the management were quite incompetent. Making an appointment and then not being there at the specified time. Telling me they would do something and then forgetting. Telling me they would call me back about something then I didn't hear from them. There are better schools and you deserve better. I definitely recommend going to PFC instead. I would also recommend CFC over proifr.

Regarding the current state of the industry in Canada for new pilots, I will defer to someone more knowledgable. Someone posted some good info in another thread.

Also, at the beginning, do not expect to be making more than minimum income. You should be of the mind set that you are trading your time for experience that will help get your career started.

+TSRA

6th Apr 2019, 14:26

You should be of the mind set that you are trading your time for experience that will help get your career started.

NO. YOU. SHOULD. NOT.

If you hold a professional qualification that permits you to work for hire and reward - vis a vis the CPL and ATPL - and you have a job, then your career starts the day you walk through the doors of your first job. You are now a professional, and you are trading your expertise for a wage. While that wage is scaled - and rightly so - to your experience level, DO NOT consider that you are somehow of lesser value to the company than a more experienced pilot. Yes, you are still learning - but now you're learning about the business side of aviation, and business is business - if you give an owner an inch, they'll take a mile.

Let me put this another way: This is EXACTLY the mindset that has gotten our profession into the horrible position it is now. Too many junior pilots suggest that flying airplanes is cool, that we should be happy to accept whatever because our dreams are realized and that us in the older crowd just "don't get it" anymore. If you act like a kid in a candy store happy that the confectioner is handing you a small Hershey's Kiss, then that is what you're going to get for the rest of your career: Little pieces of chocolate while the big bars are sitting on the back wall, all going home to the confectioners kids. Act like a professional and expect to be paid like one. When it comes to contract time, find a way to get a piece of that big bar.

Takira101

7th Apr 2019, 00:16

NO. YOU. SHOULD. NOT.

If you hold a professional qualification that permits you to work for hire and reward - vis a vis the CPL and ATPL - and you have a job, then your career starts the day you walk through the doors of your first job. You are now a professional, and you are trading your expertise for a wage. While that wage is scaled - and rightly so - to your experience level, DO NOT consider that you are somehow of lesser value to the company than a more experienced pilot. Yes, you are still learning - but now you're learning about the business side of aviation, and business is business - if you give an owner an inch, they'll take a mile.

Let me put this another way: This is EXACTLY the mindset that has gotten our profession into the horrible position it is now. Too many junior pilots suggest that flying airplanes is cool, that we should be happy to accept whatever because our dreams are realized and that us in the older crowd just "don't get it" anymore. If you act like a kid in a candy store happy that the confectioner is handing you a small Hershey's Kiss, then that is what you're going to get for the rest of your career: Little pieces of chocolate while the big bars are sitting on the back wall, all going home to the confectioners kids. Act like a professional and expect to be paid like one. When it comes to contract time, find a way to get a piece of that big bar.

Very well said. I agree completely. All new 200 hour pilots should apply to airlines expecting to be paid a decent professional wage. However, with some research you will see that this is not often accomplished. In fact, after talking to pilots in Canada you may find that it is quite common to live near the poverty line for the initial period after finishing your training. If you can negotiate yourself into a decent contract with decent salary right after finishing your CPL, then I fully encourage you to go for it. However, if 6 months after finishing your training you find yourself instructing or flying in a low-time position while making less money than a sales clerk at Home Depo (as is very common in Canada) I would then encourage you to re-read my previous post, stay positive, and enjoy the experience. One day when you are flying an Airbus you will look back on it as one of the funnest periods in your life.

+TSRA

7th Apr 2019, 07:58

However, with some research you will see that this is not often accomplished. In fact, after talking to pilots in Canada, you may find that it is quite common to live near the poverty line for the initial period after finishing your training.

Well, you’re talking to one, and I can tell you that while pilots may feel they are near the poverty line, that is quite often hyperbole.

According to “Opportunity for All – Canada's First Poverty Reduction Strategy (https://www.canada.ca/en/employment-social-development/programs/poverty-reduction/reports/strategy.html#h2.5),” the calculated poverty line for Canada in 2018 varied between $16,436 to $20,389 for individuals. For a family of four (two adults, two children) the poverty line varied from $32, 871 to $40,777. For comparison purposes, later on, PayScale.com (https://www.payscale.com/research/CA/Degree=Bachelor%27s_Degree/Hourly_Rate) reports the median before-tax wage for the holder of a Bachelor’s degree in Canada is $57,000 while the median before-tax hourly rate is $21.00. Although I disagree with the principle, a Bachelor’s degree is used often as a comparator to the CPL.

The average first-year First Officer at Jazz or Encore will gross around $50,000 and will net an average (https://www.ey.com/ca/en/services/tax/tax-calculators-2018-personal-tax)of $41,613. This wage is hardly near the poverty line for an individual, although it becomes difficult to house and feed a family of four on a single income. Jazz is hiring pilots straight out of flight school, and Encore is getting close. Even just on the base salary, you’re looking at a gross of $37,000 and an average net of $31,127.

Granted, not everybody earns what a first-year employee at Jazz or Encore will earn. Some will gross nearer $30,000, netting an average of $25,835, which is still above the poverty line. In some cases, that leaves you with around $800 a month above the poverty line. That’s rent. That’s entertainment. That’s an impressive food budget for one person. That’s savings for retirement or a rainy day. That’s some serious payments towards student debt.

My first year as a flight instructor I grossed $20,000. $20,000 would net an average of $18,296 in 2018. That’s the poverty line, but I’m also 18 years out from my ab initio instructing days. I’ve no clue if a first-year instructor in 2019 would still make $20,000. Cost of Living (CoL) adjustments should suggest not. Even so, Canada's definition of the poverty line provides for shelter, a modestly healthy diet, and the bare requirements for living in a first-world, 21st-century society. Sure, you're not going to have an 85" 4K UHD TV with a PS4 Pro sitting on the shelf, an iPhone X in your pocket, and a fully fueled Subaru Impreza in the driveway. But then, that's not bare bones, is it?

Say you are earning a wage near the poverty line; how do you do better? Well, be a better instructor to your students, and they’ll spread the word. In my second year, I would have reached $30,000 or more because I put in the work with my students and it started to pay off through referrals. I never sought to take students from the other instructors, but those instructors were focused too much on their logbook and not their student’s wallet, and students know when they’re being taken for a ride. So, don’t take them for a ride.As for the charter pilots, be a better First Officer. Captains at those places have some sway in who they fly with, and clients often have all the sway. If they like you, they’ll demand you. So, do better.

However, if 6 months after finishing your training you find yourself instructing or flying in a low-time position while making less money than a sales clerk at Home Depo (as is very common in Canada) I would then encourage you to re-read my previous post, stay positive, and enjoy the experience. One day when you are flying an Airbus you will look back on it as one of the funnest periods in your life.

If, after six months in the job you need a morale boost, then I suggest you are focusing on the wrong things in life. One of my first Captains always said that no matter the job, you should do that job as though it is the only one you ever wanted in life. Aviation is not an industry for the faint of heart. It is not an industry that will hand you the golden goose or a silver platter. You must work for everything or the next person in line will steal your hours or your money. Be the best instructor you can be. Be the best First Officer you can be. Hell, be the best toilet scrubber you can be. I know a current 737 Captain who started his career scrubbing toilets in Yellowknife when the only job you could maybe get with 200 hours was a ramp job – and you thought you had hit the jackpot when you got that job. He scrubbed toilets and mopped the floors as though it was his childhood dream. The Virgin Mary would have been proud to take a dump in the toilets he cleaned.

What happened? At a time where it would take most pilots up to two years to get onto an airplane, he was in after six months. He put 100% into every job he ever did. He was never a yes man; he’d say no quite a bit. But by god, when he worked, he put everyone else to shame. He knew his stuff too. You never had to remind him about a rule or procedure. He continually studied the AIM, COM, AFM, and SOPs. Just under a year after getting his first flying gig, he was the most junior Captain we had ever promoted. A year and a half later he was a Captain on a 704 machine, and under a year later he was being trained as a Captain on a 705 machine.

So again, if after six months in this jobs climate you’re still wondering where your career has gone, don’t look to PPRuNe for the answer; chances are you’re on here too much already.

Takira101

7th Apr 2019, 12:39

Well, you’re talking to one, and I can tell you that while pilots may feel they are near the poverty line, that is quite often hyperbole.

According to “Opportunity for All – Canada's First Poverty Reduction Strategy (https://www.canada.ca/en/employment-social-development/programs/poverty-reduction/reports/strategy.html#h2.5),” the calculated poverty line for Canada in 2018 varied between $16,436 to $20,389 for individuals. For a family of four (two adults, two children) the poverty line varied from $32, 871 to $40,777. For comparison purposes, later on, PayScale.com (https://www.payscale.com/research/CA/Degree=Bachelor%27s_Degree/Hourly_Rate) reports the median before-tax wage for the holder of a Bachelor’s degree in Canada is $57,000 while the median before-tax hourly rate is $21.00. Although I disagree with the principle, a Bachelor’s degree is used often as a comparator to the CPL.

The average first-year First Officer at Jazz or Encore will gross around $50,000 and will net an average (https://www.ey.com/ca/en/services/tax/tax-calculators-2018-personal-tax)of $41,613. This wage is hardly near the poverty line for an individual, although it becomes difficult to house and feed a family of four on a single income. Jazz is hiring pilots straight out of flight school, and Encore is getting close. Even just on the base salary, you’re looking at a gross of $37,000 and an average net of $31,127.

Granted, not everybody earns what a first-year employee at Jazz or Encore will earn. Some will gross nearer $30,000, netting an average of $25,835, which is still above the poverty line. In some cases, that leaves you with around $800 a month above the poverty line. That’s rent. That’s entertainment. That’s an impressive food budget for one person. That’s savings for retirement or a rainy day. That’s some serious payments towards student debt.

My first year as a flight instructor I grossed $20,000. $20,000 would net an average of $18,296 in 2018. That’s the poverty line, but I’m also 18 years out from my ab initio instructing days. I’ve no clue if a first-year instructor in 2019 would still make $20,000. Cost of Living (CoL) adjustments should suggest not. Even so, Canada's definition of the poverty line provides for shelter, a modestly healthy diet, and the bare requirements for living in a first-world, 21st-century society. Sure, you're not going to have an 85" 4K UHD TV with a PS4 Pro sitting on the shelf, an iPhone X in your pocket, and a fully fueled Subaru Impreza in the driveway. But then, that's not bare bones, is it?

Say you are earning a wage near the poverty line; how do you do better? Well, be a better instructor to your students, and they’ll spread the word. In my second year, I would have reached $30,000 or more because I put in the work with my students and it started to pay off through referrals. I never sought to take students from the other instructors, but those instructors were focused too much on their logbook and not their student’s wallet, and students know when they’re being taken for a ride. So, don’t take them for a ride.As for the charter pilots, be a better First Officer. Captains at those places have some sway in who they fly with, and clients often have all the sway. If they like you, they’ll demand you. So, do better.

If, after six months in the job you need a morale boost, then I suggest you are focusing on the wrong things in life. One of my first Captains always said that no matter the job, you should do that job as though it is the only one you ever wanted in life. Aviation is not an industry for the faint of heart. It is not an industry that will hand you the golden goose or a silver platter. You must work for everything or the next person in line will steal your hours or your money. Be the best instructor you can be. Be the best First Officer you can be. Hell, be the best toilet scrubber you can be. I know a current 737 Captain who started his career scrubbing toilets in Yellowknife when the only job you could maybe get with 200 hours was a ramp job – and you thought you had hit the jackpot when you got that job. He scrubbed toilets and mopped the floors as though it was his childhood dream. The Virgin Mary would have been proud to take a dump in the toilets he cleaned.

What happened? At a time where it would take most pilots up to two years to get onto an airplane, he was in after six months. He put 100% into every job he ever did. He was never a yes man; he’d say no quite a bit. But by god, when he worked, he put everyone else to shame. He knew his stuff too. You never had to remind him about a rule or procedure. He continually studied the AIM, COM, AFM, and SOPs. Just under a year after getting his first flying gig, he was the most junior Captain we had ever promoted. A year and a half later he was a Captain on a 704 machine, and under a year later he was being trained as a Captain on a 705 machine.

So again, if after six months in this jobs climate you’re still wondering where your career has gone, don’t look to PPRuNe for the answer; chances are you’re on here too much already.

Can’t add much to that. Absolutely fantastic to see that the new people planning to start their training have so much information to reference. I did my ppl and cpl in Canada back in 2006 and their was not a lot of info online like there is now. Looks like everyone has reason to be optimistic!

I especially like the part about being the best instructor you can be. Good advice.

Aly.S

8th Apr 2019, 18:35

Thank you both for taking the time to write back. I've been in aerospace for about 15 years now and one notion I don't compromise on is that as a professional I expect to be fairly compensated for my skills and time, irrespective of how passionate I am about the task at hand. If I find flying in Canada as a junior pilot puts me in a position where I'm having trouble meeting my financial obligations then it's a no-go. The job market here in Europe is currently pretty healthy with very decent starting salaries for fresh pilots. So as much as I'd like to fly in Canada, at least for a while, it would only happen if and when the conditions are acceptable to me. I'll see how I feel about it after some more research and my visit this summer.

I've seen some good words in one of the other threads about the Langley Flying School and schools on Pitt Meadows, anyone know anything about those? There's a bunch of schools at Pitt Meadows so a bit difficult figuring out what's what online. I'd like to narrow down the list to about 4 schools to visit between all 3 airfields when I hop over, based on the feedback I see.

ayush700

19th Apr 2019, 14:03

After so many emails, opinions of people around, and with some good faith, I'm looking to join ProIFR, Delta, BC. Since the only problem is I can't personally visit a flight school and check it according to my needs. I can only do my guesswork and apply for LOA to get my study permit.

If there is anything you guys know or want to add regarding schools in Vancouver, Or if you can recommend a better option (In whole Canada). That would be a great help.

Also, I need an estimate of living costs in Delta, BC. "I'm ready to opt for any feasible and optimal cost-cutting (Like living in a shared apartment and I can cook myself). How much it may go for a month??