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Heathrow Harry
13th Nov 2017, 20:30
The United States may be in talks with the United Arab Emirates over a potential Lockheed Martin F-35 sale, but the US Air Force’s head of Central Command doubts the UAE would be able to operate the Joint Strike Fighter alongside a fifth-generation Russian fighter.


During a round table with reporters ahead of the Dubai Air Show, USAF officials confirmed that discussions between the US and UAE were ongoing over a possible F-35 sale. But the UAE’s loyalties appear split, after Abu Dhabi signed a memorandum of understanding with Russia in February to develop a fifth-generation fighter jet. While the USAF’s vice chief of staff declined to comment on whether that move could hinder an F-35 acquisition, his counterpart from Central Command said operating a mixed fleet of Russian and US stealth aircraft would prove challenging.


“Frankly I’m not sure it’s doable,” Lt Gen Jeffrey Harrigian told FlightGlobal at the annual Dubai International Air Chiefs Conference. “You can figure out a way to do it but we’re protected with what’s coming off the F-35… To try and introduce it into something that we don’t operate it with is not some place I would expect we’re going to go.”


Harrigian also acknowledged that the mixed fleet could exacerbate existing complexities on the F-35, such as the aircraft’s autonomic logistics information system (ALIS), which automatically sends data from the fighter back to Lockheed to streamline sustainment.


“There’s a whole litany of things that would impact beyond just the policy problem you’re going to have,” he says. “At the end of the day, it’s protecting our capabilities so that if your son or daughter is in that airplane, we haven’t given something away that an adversary could use against us in the future.”


Lockheed has previously toyed with the idea of operating the F-35 alongside Russian fighters. As recently as 2011, Lockheed offered a path to F-35 for India if New Delhi bought the F-16 Falcon. Until recently, India and Russia were partnered on India’s fifth-generation aircraft.

George K Lee
14th Nov 2017, 00:35
I don't think they're that excited about connecting to Typhoons. Or anything else. "Sure, bring your own EOB. So long as you add it to the F-35 system in the special facility you pay for. Yes, that one. The one on a USAF base guarded by our MPs."

But... Interoperability!

A_Van
14th Nov 2017, 10:36
"....a memorandum of understanding with Russia in February to develop a fifth-generation fighter jet"


Mix of blah-blah and "pseudo-science" fiction.
MOU is blah-blah (because actually it means nothing) and "developing" (together with UAE, ha-ha) sounds like an absurd

Heathrow Harry
14th Nov 2017, 12:16
But Van ... they have the money and you................

ORAC
3rd May 2024, 06:08
Now worried about the UAE operating the F-35 alongside Chinese aircrfat and personnel….

https://www.defensenews.com/global/mideast-africa/2024/05/01/emirati-f-35-prospects-languish-amid-high-stakes-chinese-us-courting/

Emirati F-35 prospects languish amid high-stakes Chinese, US courting

MILAN — As the United Arab Emirates seeks closer defense ties with the United States and China alike, the prospects of exporting the F-35 fighter to Abu Dhabi anytime soon may be getting slimmer, according to experts.

On April 23, the chief of joint operations for the UAE Armed Forces met with the commander of the Chinese Air Force in Beijing to discuss options for strengthening collaboration between their services. The meeting served as the Gulf nation’s most recent overture to China, signaling a particular interest in warplane cooperation.

After receiving the first batch of Chinese Hongdu L-15A Falcon jet trainers last year, some observers have speculated that the Chengdu J-20 stealth fighter (https://www.defensenews.com/air/2022/11/08/display-at-zhuhai-airshow-reveals-info-on-chinas-j-20-j-16-inventory/) may be the next platform on the country’s wish-list.…..

Asturias56
3rd May 2024, 15:09
Whatever happened to ol' A Van? It was good to have an official mouthpiece on here

Not_a_boffin
3rd May 2024, 16:15
Whatever happened to ol' A Van? It was good to have an official mouthpiece on here
Probably in Transit.

Hat, coat, etc.....

chopper2004
3rd May 2024, 16:32
There should be the equal concern with Chinese as well, because there was talk of J-20 offerings

https://defencesecurityasia.com/en/uae-considers-chinese-j-20-mighty-dragon-as-alternative-to-u-s-f-35-jets-denied-to-them/

Plus don't forget, UAEAF have new L-15 Falcon trainer , as I saw at Dubai Air Show 2023 back in November (my pic)

https://scontent-man2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/401622367_787697363161683_8524994123968104932_n.jpg?stp=cp6_ dst-jpg&_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=CDL8qyR-aGkQ7kNvgFnlh4O&_nc_ht=scontent-man2-1.xx&oh=00_AfC_AZUvG0BeqP55lycjWHDya0JqJxg7eWdJkST4X_n_zw&oe=663AF5BA

cheers

NutLoose
3rd May 2024, 16:40
Whatever happened to ol' A Van? It was good to have an official mouthpiece on here

Surprised he is not kicking up Sunflowers by now. ;)

Before developing the Next Gen jet, they want to develop a working IFF.

ORAC
4th May 2024, 06:49
There should be the equal concern with Chinese as well, because there was talk of J-20 offerings
Why not look at post #5, which is why this thread came back to the top of the page.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:​​​​​​​