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Warmtoast
29th Sep 2017, 22:43
Visiting the Screwfix Trade Show at the Farnborough Exhibition site on the south side of the airfield this morning I was intrigued to see on the on the northern side of the airfield a USAF C17 parked up. Front crew door was open and there was activity around the aircraft, so wonder what it was doing there?

chevvron
30th Sep 2017, 09:53
Better not tell the locals; it's well above the max weight limit.

Chris Kebab
30th Sep 2017, 11:56
Maybe the USAF have a very, very big stand in the Screwfix Trade Show?

chevvron
30th Sep 2017, 12:17
Visiting the Screwfix Trade Show at the Farnborough Exhibition site on the south side of the airfield this morning I was intrigued to see on the on the northern side of the airfield a USAF C17 parked up. Front crew door was open and there was activity around the aircraft, so wonder what it was doing there?
They transport presidential limos in C17s nowadays. Maybe Mrs Trump is coming over for Christmas shopping.
(Farnborough was used in the past during Clinton's time and Hilary made at least two visits solo with her limos being transported in C141s which have now been replaced by C17s.)

PDR1
30th Sep 2017, 14:15
It was there on the apron when I flew into Farnborough on Thursday evening.

PDR

pr00ne
1st Oct 2017, 12:03
Transport aircraft that is designed to transport things from and to airfields seen at airfield shock!

chevvron
1st Oct 2017, 14:21
Transport aircraft that is designed to transport things from and to airfields seen at airfield shock!

TAG (the owners/FBO operators at Farnborough) are normally very strict when a request is made to accept an aircraft which is over the weight limit allowed by local planning conditions so it's very unusual to see such a type at Farnborough outside the air show period, normally the weight limit only allows aircraft up to the same MTOW as a '737-800 ie about half the weight of a C17.

pr00ne
1st Oct 2017, 15:30
So, not THAT strict then it would seem?

BEagle
1st Oct 2017, 16:07
Hardly surprising that a C-17 was at Farnborough, given that the Boeing C-17 International Training Centre is located within the FSI facility there....:rolleyes:

http://www.boeing.co.uk/products-services/boeing-defence-uk/programmes/training.page

chevvron
1st Oct 2017, 16:25
So, not THAT strict then it would seem?
Let's just say they are very good at finding 'loopholes' in the planning conditions document.
F'rinstance, they could argue that as it wasn't a civil business aircraft, it wasn't bound by the planning conditions, however when Roman Abramovitch wanted to base his 767 (replacement for his 737) there he was refused point blank.

chevvron
1st Oct 2017, 16:28
Hardly surprising that a C-17 was at Farnborough, given that the Boeing C-17 International Training Centre is located within the FSI facility there....:rolleyes:

Boeing: Boeing UK - Training (http://www.boeing.co.uk/products-services/boeing-defence-uk/programmes/training.page)
Reading that reminded me that there was a Chinook sim at Farnborough in RAE/DRA times; we often got one in for a few hours whilst the crew flew the sim.

Warmtoast
3rd Oct 2017, 06:07
BEagle



Thanks.

Rushmoor Borough Council in their "Key Facts About Farnborough Airport" document here:
http://www.rushmoor.gov.uk/CHttpHandler.ashx?id=14688&p=0
states:
Aircraft are limited to those types with a manufacturer's maximum take-off weight below 50 tonnes.
This limit allows the operation of inter-continental business aircraft such as the Gulfstream V and Global Express. An exception is made for up to 1,500 movements per annum by purpose designed business aircraft up to 80 tonnes to accommodate the Boeing Business Jet and Airbus Corporate
Jet.Given a C17's weight (128,100 kg), it would seem it's well outside Rushmoor BC's weight limit, although I expect a special dispensation was given if it was for a support visit to Boeings new facility I assume.

David Thompson
3rd Oct 2017, 08:51
Visiting the Screwfix Trade Show at the Farnborough Exhibition northern side of the airfield a USAF C17 parked , so wonder what it was doing there?

77181 C-17 USAF/AMC/437thAW arrived on the 27th and no , I don't know why it was there either !

c52
3rd Oct 2017, 14:08
I can exclusively reveal it was bringing an X-77A hypersonic in-flight refuelling aircraft to carry out top secret flights at an airfield in Southern England.

bobward
3rd Oct 2017, 14:28
I'm pretty sure that C17's have appeared at various Farnborough air shows over the years.

PhilipG
3rd Oct 2017, 17:43
I am assuming that the C17 meant to land at Farnborough?

Thinking of the one that landed at the wrong airfield in Florida.

chevvron
5th Oct 2017, 02:01
I'm pretty sure that C17's have appeared at various Farnborough air shows over the years.

Local plannng conditions take a back seat during the 2 weeks of the airshow hence the regular appearance of the A380 too.
Not only the C17 though, the Farnborough airshow in 1976 featured the visually similar but much smaller YC15 from which the C17 was developed.

OvertHawk
5th Oct 2017, 05:38
The planning restrictions do not apply to "Government flights".