Best UK IMC (IR(R)) Exam Preparation?

[S205Flyer]

Hi Folks,

my first post so be gentle! :)

I am half-way through my practical IMC training and will return to this once the weather draws in in the UK :rolleyes:

I have read the Air Pilots Manual Book 5 on Instrument Flying and Night Flying but this is not IMC specific (I dont think).

My questions:

1) Does the IMC Confuser still exist or does somebody have a copy they will sell or loan to me?
2) Is Rant XL (or X-Plane 10) useful for practicing radio nav procedures?

Cheers in advance.
Simon

[Romeo Tango]

Almost any simulator is good for radio nav procedures. Obviously it must have VOR, ILS, ADF (maybe - don't know if ILS, ADF relevant for IMC rating) and preferably a simulator for your particular type of GPS.

[TheOddOne]

don't know if ILS, ADF relevant for IMC rating
It certainly is! Rant XL is good (other sims available). Look for a sim that simulates ADF 'dip'. NDB holds still a part of the syllabus and of course the ILS is a major feature.

The Jeremy Pratt confuser book was last seen on an auction site at around £160, but the publishers have apparently ruled out re-issuing it. I save my copy for lending to our students (sorry).

No GPS in the current IR(R) course (not sure if there is in the CBIR, either).

TOO

[LastStandards]

No GPS in the current IR(R) course (not sure if there is in the CBIR, either).

Lots of RNAV/RNP/PBN use in the CBIR course, accomplished in 98% of GA aircraft with GPS. The CBIR is an abridged route to a standard IR - albeit with reduced theoretical knowledge - and so includes the same enroute/airways phases mandating at least RNAV5, and if done correctly includes all approach types. The future being RNP appoaches!

[Gertrude the Wombat]

Rant is good. I flew each lesson's exercise on Rant before flying it in the aircraft, using that day's (forecast) wind. Must have saved a fortune!

[Romeo Tango]

Even if GPS is not in the exam .... it will certainly will be in real life

[Duchess_Driver]

Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on your POV) the IMC theory exam doesn't focus too much on the technical side of the equipment - more on its operational use. There are several questions on speed/distance/time/fuel that require the use of a good old fashioned wiz wheel. It's more of a Nav exam, IMHO.

As TOO and others have suggested, RANT is very good for QDM/QDR interpretation but not so hot for developing a good solid/dependable scan.

There are several Day Course providers who would be happy to help.

[Pbez]

Hi Folks,

my first post so be gentle! :)

I am half-way through my practical IMC training and will return to this once the weather draws in in the UK :rolleyes:

I have read the Air Pilots Manual Book 5 on Instrument Flying and Night Flying but this is not IMC specific (I dont think).

My questions:

1) Does the IMC Confuser still exist or does somebody have a copy they will sell or loan to me?
2) Is Rant XL (or X-Plane 10) useful for practicing radio nav procedures?

Cheers in advance.
Simon
Good afternoon,
I am looking for the same information, as yet I haven't started my practical flying.
I am reading Vol5, but also use an app called PPL Pro on my Iphone/Ipad as it has IMC revision and questions. I have PPL tutor also on my phone which is quite good, but no specific IMC questions within that.
I wanted to use my OAT Media IMC rating DVD, but it doesn't work on windows 10 so I'm working my way around that.
Apparently the test questions changed in 2014 to introduce the IR(R). So I'm a bit wary of anything that's too out of date. From looking at various posts it seems the exam is basically a Nav exam, but extracts information from most of the other PPL subjects...

Flight sim wise I have an older version of Microsoft flight simulator (I think 2010). I use the autopilot the IFR panel and use Instrument charts either NDB holds or ILS approaches. I also tried the DME track which was interesting to better understand what the book is telling me.

I hope this helps/useful, the best of luck!

[RodgerF]

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"Lots of RNAV/RNP/PBN use in the CBIR course, accomplished in 98% of GA aircraft with GPS. The CBIR is an abridged route to a standard IR - albeit with reduced theoretical knowledge - and so includes the same enroute/airways phases mandating at least RNAV5, and if done correctly includes all approach types."

The CBIR has the same TK requirement as the modular IR or IR as part of the integrated course. The ATPL exams, the CPL exams plus the IR exams or for PPL holders the IR exams. No credible ATO would not train candidates for every approach type in the UK.

[LastStandards]

The CBIR has the same TK requirement as the modular IR or IR as part of the integrated course. The ATPL exams, the CPL exams plus the IR exams or for PPL holders the IR exams. No credible ATO would not train candidates for every approach type in the UK.

It is an interesting one that Part-FCL specifies that the TK for a CB-IR course shall comprise instruction to the IR(A) level, however the AMC to FCL shows a number of differing areas - hence why an IR holder who has completed CB-IR exams rather than IR or ATPL exams has their IR endorsed with the restriction of CB.

Sadly a number of ATOs still train purely for the approaches likely to be flown on "local test routes". The advent of mandatory PBN training/testing should go some way to correcting this, the majority of IR prof checks I conduct at the moment include a RNP approach as a first for the candidate :eek: