View Full Version : Sad Day for Qatar, flying for BA
Sailvi767
18th Jul 2017, 02:15
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-03/british-airways-rides-out-16-day-cabin-strike-with-qatar-planes
londoneasyjetboi
18th Jul 2017, 10:16
Why sad? QR has planes and crews and BA needs planes WITH crews...
Sailvi767
18th Jul 2017, 14:53
It all depends on what BA is labeling struck work. If we end up with a system where any airline can cover for a strike and there are no repercussions to such actions then we all lose.
Airmann
19th Jul 2017, 02:32
You can thank Saudi, UAE, Bahrain and Egypt for this. Wouldn't have had all those spare planes if not for the blockade.
Black Pudding
19th Jul 2017, 09:27
Sailvi767
Please correct me if I am wrong, but have you been out to Doha for an interview ?
atakacs
19th Jul 2017, 09:47
I am admittedly pretty ignorant in such things but can Qatar airways operate intra eureopean flights just like that?
If so why do flag carriers bother to maintain their own fleet?
edi_local
19th Jul 2017, 15:59
I am admittedly pretty ignorant in such things but can Qatar airways operate intra eureopean flights just like that?
If so why do flag carriers bother to maintain their own fleet?
They already fly their short haul Airbuses into many European cities and have crew suitable for working/basing in the EU/UK without the need for visas or permits. They are merely operating their aircraft and crew on behalf of BA. They carried BA flight numbers. Other than getting regulatory approval from the CAA in the UK (although what exactly that was for I don't know), I don't think there was much hassle involved.
Where are all the BA planes not being used right now? CWL for maintenance or parked up at various airports?
Emma Royds
19th Jul 2017, 16:24
If we end up with a system where any airline can cover for a strike and there are no repercussions to such actions then we all lose.
Except ACMI operators, any of which would have probably been only too pleased to offer their services, had Qatar had not stepped in.
There is money to be made out of crew striking.
Geebz
21st Jul 2017, 22:11
Anyone celebrating this should be ashamed.
The Scab
by Jack London,(1876-1916)
After God had finished the rattlesnake, the toad, and the vampire, he had some awful substance left with which he made a scab.
A scab is a two-legged animal with a corkscrew soul, a water brain, a combination backbone of jelly and glue.
Where others have hearts, he carries a tumor of rotten principles.
When a scab comes down the street, men turn their backs and angels weep in heaven, and the devil shuts the gates of hell to keep him out.
No man (or woman) has a right to scab so long as there is a pool of water to drown his carcass in, or a rope long enough to hang his body with.
Judas was a gentleman compared with a scab. For betraying his master, he had character enough to hang himself. A scab has not.
Esau sold his birthright for a mess of pottage.
Judas sold his Savior for thirty pieces of silver.
Benedict Arnold sold his country for a promise of a commission in the British army.
The scab sells his birthright, country, his wife, his children and his fellowmen for an unfulfilled promise from his employer.
Esau was a traitor to himself; Judas was a traitor to his God; Benedict Arnold was a traitor to his country.
A scab is a traitor to his God, his country, his family and his class.
Author --- Jack London (1876-1916)
I guess one of the moderators did not like my post for some reason.
Just noticed it had been removed.
BDD
casablanca
22nd Jul 2017, 02:36
I was in a union most of my career, but this seems different than how it is done in USA.
Anyways I fail to see how Qr pilots would be branded scabs and not apply that title to the 99% of BA employees working as normal?
Cas,
Thats what I said and they took down my post.
BDD
harry the cod
22nd Jul 2017, 04:34
Not only that but during the last cabin crew industrial action, BA pilots themselves were willing to fly as cabin crew to ensure the airline kept going. The fallout of that is still being felt to this day.
Harry
ironbutt57
22nd Jul 2017, 05:16
Not only that but during the last cabin crew industrial action, BA pilots themselves were willing to fly as cabin crew to ensure the airline kept going. The fallout of that is still being felt to this day.
Harry
I always wondered if those fellows eat any food on the airplane after that, thats a true scab, knifing your own crew members...
CARGOJOCK
22nd Jul 2017, 05:52
also read that QR is looking for B744F crews probably for their new aircraft so that they can supply qatar with food and medicines.......
White Knight
22nd Jul 2017, 07:53
Quote:
Originally Posted by harry the cod View Post
Not only that but during the last cabin crew industrial action, BA pilots themselves were willing to fly as cabin crew to ensure the airline kept going. The fallout of that is still being felt to this day.
Harry
I always wondered if those fellows eat any food on the airplane after that, thats a true scab, knifing your own crew members...
This particular minority of cabin crew are extremely militant and I doubt that the BA pilots would have seen it as 'knifing your own crew members':= This lot of CC are British Socialists at their worst:ugh:
Monarch Man
22nd Jul 2017, 08:03
The delicious irony that shouldn't be lost here is that the mixed fleet crew that are striking are the very individuals wee willy recruited to break the back of the toxic Bassa mafia. I recall my missus coming home (ex Eurofleet and concorde etc) talking about people being threatened in the car park at braincrank etc etc.