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rumour mill
18th Apr 2017, 10:09
Hi All,

Does anyone know if it would be possible to credit Simulator time towards the prerequisite requirement of 1500 Multi Pilot Flight time for the Synthetic Flight Instructor course? I understand simulator time is not flight time and I wouldn't log it as that. However, EASA FCL states Simulator time can be used for credit for further licenses and courses, however, I have only ever seen this applied to ATPL upgrade. Surely it would be reasonable to credit the simulator time towards a license that would allow you to instruct in the Sim, wouldn't it be reasonably relevant experience?

Best
RM

BillieBob
18th Apr 2017, 12:53
The requirement is for 1500 hours flight time as a pilot on multi-pilot aeroplanes. A simulator is not an aeroplane and, therefore, the time does not count towards this requirement.

Albus_Dumbledore
30th Apr 2017, 07:37
Time gathered on a Full Flight Simulator (FFS) that is Level C or D, counts as time on type.

nick14
20th May 2017, 20:08
No it doesn't, not in EASA land anyway.

Have a look at the definition of FLIGHT time.

Albus_Dumbledore
22nd May 2017, 10:49
Reading Part-FCL.050 AMC, there is no mention of not being able to?

It was a UK CAA-ism that was put into CAP804, which is no longer used.

Rumour-mill, contact the CAA and get an answer from the horses-mouth, instead of using your namesake :ok: That way you can tell us all the answer, which i'll put a beer on, will be fine.

BEagle
22nd May 2017, 18:42
OK, try the EASA definition:

"Flight time":
for aeroplanes, touring motor gliders and powered-lift, it means the total time from the moment an aircraft first moves for the purpose of taking off until the moment it finally comes to rest at the end of the flight;

for helicopters, it means the total time from the moment a helicopter’s rotor blades start turning until the moment the helicopter finally comes to rest at the end of the flight, and the rotor blades are stopped;

for airships, it means the total time from the moment an airship is released from the mast for the purpose of taking off until the moment the airship finally comes to rest at the end of the flight, and is secured on the mast;

for sailplanes, it means the total time from the moment the sailplane commences the ground run in the process of taking off until the moment the sailplane finally comes to a rest at the end of flight;

for balloons, it means the total time from the moment the basket leaves the ground for the purpose of taking off until the moment it finally comes to a rest at the end of the flight.

There is no such thing as 'flight' time in a sweatbox, no matter how Gucci it might be considered to be.

The whole idea of the requirement is to ensure that only real pilots, with real flight time in aircraft, may instruct in simulators.

Whopity
23rd May 2017, 07:13
Rumour-mill, contact the CAA and get an answer from the horses-mouthClearly a bit behind the times; the horse has bolted, and it seems has taken all the answers with it.