Using PPL Hours for Type Rating

[al_uk2]

Hello All

First post and I apologise if this question has been asked and answered before.
I'm currently doing my PPL (H) in the UK with a view to get CPL. Obviously a very expensive process. I appear to be on target to completing the PPL within 45 hours. Therefore I wish to use my hours as efficiently as possible. I'm learning in the Robinson R22 for cost reasons.
I had a flight in an R44 from a visiting CFI (also UK based) who told me that the hours I do in the R44 will count towards my 5 hours of type conversion as long as I complete the conversion within 6 months. Most of the instructors who I asked did not realise or think this was the case but the visiting CFI said that he had seen it done and that the CFA does not specifically say you can nor does it specifically say you can not count hours done under the PPL towards your type rating.

Does anyone know categorically which is correct?

My top priority of course is to ensure I will be an excellent and safe pilot in all regards, so being smart with the costs comes second, but it still something I need to keep an eye on.

Thanks

[rudestuff]

You could do 40 hours in an R22, then 5 in an R44 then a skill test to get a PPL with R44 type rating. Then you could do 45 mins in an R22 to add your R22 type rating. That worked for me. I think as long as you've done 5 hours you can count it.

[al_uk2]

You could do 40 hours in an R22, then 5 in an R44 then a skill test to get a PPL with R44 type rating. Then you could do 45 mins in an R22 to add your R22 type rating. That worked for me. I think as long as you've done 5 hours you can count it.

Hi Rude. Thanks, thats interesting and good to hear you've had that experience.
I have been led to believe that I may only spend up to 10 hours of my 45 on a different type other than the one that I use to take my PPL test, do my cross country and come out with a rating on.

There does seem to be an awful lot of misunderstanding/difference of opinions on the rules for PPL.

You don't happen to know of any official legislation that clarifies the situation?

Thanks

[Whopity]

You don't happen to know of any official legislation that clarifies the situation?
You could try reading the regulation Annex 1!

FCL.210.H PPL(H) — Experience requirements and crediting
(a) Applicants for a PPL(H) shall have completed at least 45 hours of flight instruction on helicopters, 5 of which may have been completed in an FNPT or FFS, including at least:
(1) 25 hours of dual flight instruction; and
(2) 10 hours of supervised solo flight time, including at least 5 hours of solo cross-country flight time with at least 1 cross-country flight of at least 185 km (100 NM), with full stop landings at 2 aerodromes different from the aerodrome of departure.
(3) 35 of the 45 hours of flight instruction have to be completed on the same type of helicopter as the one used for the skill test.

[al_uk2]

Thank you Whopity.

I had a peruse of Annex 1 as suggested. The part you pasted confirms what I had been told about the 10 hours, however nowhere in Annex 1 did I read that the additional 10 hours could or could not be used towards hours on an additional type rating.

If anyone believes this is not the case I would be very appreciative to understand why.

Thanks.

[rudestuff]

It's clear as mud.. The opinion that counts is the Examiners, with the right paperwork the CAA should stamp it.

[al_uk2]

Thanks Rude and Whopty. I will check with my examiner then.