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F28A
26th Mar 2017, 12:32
Two different beasts.Interested in buying one or the other.Can anybody advise re: acquisition costs,pros and cons,know of one for sale?

Cyclic Hotline
26th Mar 2017, 14:48
Bell 47 - large wallet
Lama - enormous chequebook.

helicopter-redeye
26th Mar 2017, 15:26
May depend on what you want to do with the winner. Fly a lot, tour, or own and operate a "classic car"?

I heard a stat on the A2 of 1hr flying = 5hrs maintenance which might give you a clue on costs.

GoodGrief
26th Mar 2017, 15:31
Since the subject came up.
Can't decide between a 206 and a 76. Help appreciated.:E

Cyclic Hotline
26th Mar 2017, 16:02
Probably cheaper to purchase an S76A right now. Plus with all of them being cannibalized, they will be cheap to operate forever.

ericferret
26th Mar 2017, 17:21
I always remember a friend of mine saying "I won't hear a bad word said about the S76, the overtime is paying my mortgage"!!!!!

I somehow doubt that the S76 will ever be cheap to operate. Anything with twin engines costs and labour isn't cheap. Really down to how deep your pockets are.

There will no doubt be some cheap(ish) Lama's on the market in the next few years.
If I could afford one I would. Very reliable.

Some 47 parts are hard to find or very expensive or both.

F28A
26th Mar 2017, 18:02
May depend on what you want to do with the winner. Fly a lot, tour, or own and operate a "classic car"?

I heard a stat on the A2 of 1hr flying = 5hrs maintenance which might give you a clue on costs.
I'm getting back into this aviation lark after a long layoff and will only want to tour and operate as a classic.Used to have an Enstrom then did fixed wing so I could go for a 182 I suppose......
Anything interesting really.Enstrom FX could be a contender.

whoknows idont
26th Mar 2017, 19:10
Since the subject came up.
Can't decide between a 206 and a 76. Help appreciated.:E

Too subtle apparently ;)

Tickle
27th Mar 2017, 01:52
Need help deciding between a 205 and an R22. Help appreciated. :)

krypton_john
27th Mar 2017, 19:51
Nope. Still not getting it!

Ian Corrigible
27th Mar 2017, 20:01
Need help deciding between a 205 and an R22. Help appreciated. :)
We've already done that one (well, R66 vs. 205 (http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/590353-what-ship.html)). :E

helicopter-redeye
27th Mar 2017, 20:40
F28, why not try a couple out for the cost of a trial flight. There are marginally more 47s to do this on in the UK, or even have a weekend away in Europe where they may be more lama to do so.

SASless
28th Mar 2017, 02:42
Get a nice Long Ranger or 407 and be done with it.

r88
29th Mar 2017, 16:01
Bell 47 or lama, huh? What are your criterias ?

"-ugly

End of list" ?

47fan
31st Mar 2017, 08:39
28A. The 47 is a good machine. I have 2 at he moment and am happy to help with advice !!

Mike Flynn
31st Mar 2017, 21:41
I agree re the 47.

The only helicopter where you can do an auto,pull collective and still do a 180.

John Eacott
31st Mar 2017, 21:43
I agree re the 47.

The only helicopter where you can do an auto,pull collective and still do a 180.

Unlike the Bell 206 where you can do a full 360.

:rolleyes:

NNB
2nd Apr 2017, 05:14
and where is JCE these days?

enstrompilot
12th Apr 2017, 07:47
Why lama ? Alouette 2, either 313b or 318 form, a lighter weight lower cost option

Maint not as rumoured, most parts make tbo, annual maintenance and 50hr/ 6 month check

Al2 313b now annex 2 so maint regs slightly easier

Pay 80k for 313, may 120k for 318c both in nice nick with say >700 hrs to Tbo on main parts