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diddy1234
16th Mar 2017, 21:53
A few years ago I did follow an interesting thread on here about a suspect captain and a 707 (I believe) taking off from a UK airfield and wrecking the ILS system.

Unsure of the airfield in question or when this happened.

When asked if he wanted to divert, he said that he would continue onto his destination even though he had flap and undercarriage damage.

I believe that the undercarriage wouldn't retract so the flight was continued at 10,000 feet.

I can't remember where the destination was but I believe the story came about because the ground mechanic was not paid or something to that effect.
The aircraft had a few issues before it took off.

Can anyone elaborate on the story and was it true (or is it an internet hoax) ?

Herod
16th Mar 2017, 22:05
It's on here somewhere, and I'm sure you'll have an answer soon, including from some eyewitnesses. Bristol I believe.

Meikleour
16th Mar 2017, 22:08
www.flightglobal.com/FlightPDFArchive/1980/1980 - 3937.PDF

Check out the above link.

barry lloyd
16th Mar 2017, 22:13
http://www.pprune.org/aviation-history-nostalgia/387572-boeing-707-n711ut-9q-cry.html

diddy1234
16th Mar 2017, 22:26
Ah thanks for that, I had to search to get the correct link but yes it appears to have happened :-

https://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1980/1980%20-%203937.html

Oddly enough, the AAIB has nothing on this

DaveReidUK
16th Mar 2017, 22:47
The Lulsgate Cowboy - Myth or True Story? (http://www.pprune.org/atc-issues/193891-lulsgate-cowboy-myth-true-story.html)

suninmyeyes
16th Mar 2017, 23:24
I remember reading and being fascinated by the story of the Lulsgate cowboy in Flight Magazine in the days when I bought it and started at the back to look at the pilot job vacancies.

Other interesting stories where the plane failed to get airborne by the end of the runway and took out lights before staggering into the air are the Afghanistan DC-8 that took off in 2010 from Manston 25,000 lbs too heavy for the conditions

https://www.gov.uk/aaib-reports/douglas-dc-8-63f-ya-vic-11-august-2010

Also the Pan Am 747 at San Francisco in 1971 where the pilots got the takeoff calculations wrong.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_845

Having flown the 747 Classic I do remember how complicated it was to work out the figures on the takeoff proforma.

POBJOY
16th Mar 2017, 23:54
I have certainly read a co-pilots report about an incident similar to this.
It was a 707 and I will check the details (when I find the article)
AS I recall it was abroad and the owners/operators were sent a hefty bill.
UK co-pilot and Captain not.
Back soon when I return to home from a warm place.