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smith
22nd Feb 2017, 08:23
Flight Attendant did not disarm the door correctly and it deployed on opening. Long delay and passengers offloaded to hotel. Expensive mistake.

vctenderness
22nd Feb 2017, 08:32
Very difficult to make a mistake like that. The system requires cross checking so at least two sets of eyes confirm the door is disarmed.

Also extremely dangerous when on stand there have been incidents in the past where people have lost their lives due to unexpected slide deployment.

smith
22nd Feb 2017, 08:37
An interview with no biscuits for the attendant I guess.

Capt Fathom
22nd Feb 2017, 08:44
No it's not a difficult mistake to make.

The door was opened instead of being disarmed! Too late to cross check!

gearlever
22nd Feb 2017, 08:56
Didn't Luftie do the same at Manchester last year?

Contact Approach
22nd Feb 2017, 08:59
Has anyone ever even received a biscuit anyways!?

msjh
22nd Feb 2017, 09:19
In their monthly pay packet - yes! ;-)

Piltdown Man
22nd Feb 2017, 09:19
Ancient 737s excluded, until we start to open aircraft doors from the outside this remains a distinct possibility. Modern aircraft will (should) automatically disarm the slides when opened from the outside. Besides, what do we gain from opening doors from the inside? This poor cabin crew member has just joined a huge great long list of slide blowers. I do hood nothing untoward happens to the CA involved. Lastly, smith, I do hope you are not involved in any safety function. Punitive reactions to occurrences like this cause real safety problems to be convered up.

Brat
22nd Feb 2017, 09:30
Sorry to hear it. Accidents can, do and will happen.

Bit difficult to cover up a mistaken slide deployment Dawson.

smith
22nd Feb 2017, 10:22
Aircraft departed 6 hours late. Slide removed and door listed as inop as not a full flight.

smith
22nd Feb 2017, 10:24
Ancient 737s excluded, until we start to open aircraft doors from the outside this remains a distinct possibility. Modern aircraft will (should) automatically disarm the slides when opened from the outside. Besides, what do we gain from opening doors from the inside? This poor cabin crew member has just joined a huge great long list of slide blowers. I do hood nothing untoward happens to the CA involved. Lastly, smith, I do hope you are not involved in any safety function. Punitive reactions to occurrences like this cause real safety problems to be convered up.


Was just trying to be humerous. I'm sure the CA will have a sleepless night regardless.

hoss183
22nd Feb 2017, 10:28
Was just trying to be humerous. I'm sure the CA will have a sleepless night regardless.

Not a funny bone in your body ;)
Perhaps you meant humorous?

PC767
22nd Feb 2017, 10:40
Internal communications at BA state it was D1R, so not a door which would be opened under normal circumstances, and that the slide "fell out". My guess would be the door wasn't opened but the slide has fallen from inside the bustle to the deck floor. Not blown.

atakacs
22nd Feb 2017, 10:51
Internal communications at BA state it was D1R, so not a door which would be opened under normal circumstances, and that the slide "fell out". My guess would be the door wasn't opened but the slide has fallen from inside the bustle to the deck floor. Not blown.
Hmm not privy to the details of this incident but if it was indeed D1R how did it happen?!

wiggy
22nd Feb 2017, 11:50
What PC767 describes has happened before on other types ( slide falling out, fortunately not inflating).

Not familiar with the 380 so willing to shut up PDQ but..D1R - on at least two other BA wide body types I'm familiar with 1R is certainly routinely opened and used for catering team access (usually opened from outside; sometimes opened from inside) and/or opened for High lifts (wheel chairs). Out of interest not so on the 380?

Volume
22nd Feb 2017, 12:05
Is the A380 especially known for having issues with frozen girt bars after long flights?
Just experienced how an FA disarmed a door (A330, 3L), received a phone call why the door is not disarmed, moved the lever a few more times until the person on the other end of the line confimed a "disarm" indication...
Is it possible to move the lever to disarm, with the mechanism actually frozen? Do you have to rely on the indication (cockpit and display at purser station)

Less Hair
22nd Feb 2017, 13:02
BA have the new door type right?

PC767
22nd Feb 2017, 13:56
Time to put the thread to bed. Nothing to see, move on. At BA the first galley is at doors 2 on the A380, therefore catering use that door. There's a stair case at doors 1.

wiggy
22nd Feb 2017, 14:54
Ah Ok PC, that makes sense, thanks

Rwy in Sight
22nd Feb 2017, 15:30
Piltdown Man, your idea is nice but it requires more training for the handling agent's staff and thus it is not going to happen.

fantom
22nd Feb 2017, 16:47
your idea is nice but it requires more training for the handling agent's staff and thus it is not going to happen.

Well, it's what we did in KAC and, if you can do it in KWI, you can do it anywhere.

WindSheer
22nd Feb 2017, 18:05
This happens more often in airlines across the world than you would expect. Most of the time though the chute will drop out onto the steps and not deploy - it needs to drop a certain distance to disengage the inflation pin.

Cabin crew are human - no system is protected against human error!!

smith
22nd Feb 2017, 18:40
BA268 now landed safely at LHR. 4 hours behind schedule. I believe the door sensor was faulty after the removal of the slide and a new one had to be replaced. Non event really, nothing to see, move on.

bvcu
22nd Feb 2017, 18:41
Shouldn't happen on A380 as an extra safety warning in the form of a warning light at door if handle is lifted without disarming !

Ancient Mariner
22nd Feb 2017, 19:05
Or, like on Air China's (CAAC) old Tu154, leave it to the passenger to deploy the slide. I had the "lucky seat" on one domestic flight, fortunately didn't have reason to act.
Fortunately since I have seen clearer instructions included with cheap Chinese gadgets.