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mingocr83
10th Feb 2017, 04:39
Not much in the news, A330 belonging to Aerolineas Argentinas had a engine failure in JFk, I would assume during the takeoff roll

Plane bound for Buenos Aires suffers engine fire at JFK Airport, sources say | abc7ny.com (http://abc7ny.com/news/plane-bound-for-buenos-aires-on-fire-at-jfk-airport-sources-say/1747334/?utm_content=buffer0cf6d&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4R4bW-WIAAMaUN.jpg:large

DaveReidUK
10th Feb 2017, 06:38
"Once the fire was out, the plane taxied under its own power off the runway."

Don't you just love the media ?

readywhenreaching
10th Feb 2017, 06:39
according to this Tweet https://twitter.com/jacdecnew
it was cleared to take off from runway 31L.
RH ENG Failure accured in the early seconds of acceleration, however the pilot was heared over the radio after being informed about a "fire on the right engine", saying: "We dont have an indication".
Recorded portion on LiveATC: http://archive-server.liveatc.net/kjfk/KJFK-Twr-Feb-10-2017-0330Z.mp3

ACMS
10th Feb 2017, 09:22
Probably didn't have a fire warning if the failure was contained inside the Engine casing.

unworry
10th Feb 2017, 09:26
Recorded portion on LiveATC: http://archive-server.liveatc.net/kj...2017-0330Z.mp3

jump to 21:08 for take-off clearance ...

16024
10th Feb 2017, 09:56
Dave Reid:

"Once the fire was out, the plane taxied under its own power off the runway."

Don't you just love the media ?

Don't you just.
Especially as every part of an airport apart from the terminal seems to be "The Runway".

Slats One
10th Feb 2017, 15:15
ok, slag the media, esp the Daily Mail coverage, BUT, have you noticed the thrust reverser is semi-deployed on the engine in question - the casing gap ring is clear.


Casing slid back to partial deploy position prior to take off? Me thinks not folks...


As you were...

lomapaseo
10th Feb 2017, 16:06
It would seem that the flame part is nothing more than a high power surge out both ends.

The one pic seems to show all kinds of sparks. If we're not being tricked by grainy pics than then it's possible that a few turbine bits have come out the rear end as well.

I guess they will just change out the engine and put it back into service in a day or so and thus ends the news interest.

fantom
10th Feb 2017, 18:18
Which eng type is it?

DaveReidUK
10th Feb 2017, 19:36
Aerolineas Argentina have a mixed fleet, but this one was PW4168-powered.

KelvinD
10th Feb 2017, 23:15
Seems it was LV-FNJ. That was quite a bang on the video, plus a lot of scrap metal tinkling sounds!

45989
11th Feb 2017, 02:04
Once, ages ago, this used to be a forum for pilots. Hey Rob?

mingocr83
11th Feb 2017, 02:17
Seems it was LV-FNJ. That was quite a bang on the video, plus a lot of scrap metal tinkling sounds!
Indeed! Quite a bang on this one. This video makes me remember when a A319 belonging to AC had a contained engine failure in SJO...was a nice explosion

DJ77
12th Feb 2017, 08:26
I would not be too surprised if the engine failure was the result of ice accumulated during taxi Which detached when they set up takeoff power.

SeenItAll
14th Feb 2017, 19:36
All I can say is that as a SLF, if I heard what was on the PAX video (with the accompanying light flashes), I would be more than a little startled and concerned. Is such an occurrence sufficiently routine and/or distinctive that the pilots would have been both unalarmed and immediately fully knowledgeable as to what occurred? I stand ready to be corrected, but I would guess not. Thankfully, the incident appears to have occurred early in the roll at relatively low speed, so all ended well.

lomapaseo
14th Feb 2017, 20:22
Is such an occurrence sufficiently routine and/or distinctive that the pilots would have been both unalarmed and immediately fully knowledgeable as to what occurred? I stand ready to be corrected,

It and a lot more is a part of their training

The training syllabus is designed so that pilots are not surprised like the average passenger might be.

Amadis of Gaul
14th Feb 2017, 22:46
I would not be too surprised if the engine failure was the result of ice accumulated during taxi Which detached when they set up takeoff power.
I would be damn near shocked.