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Piltdown Man
1st Feb 2017, 09:26
Yesterday Mrs. P was beside herself thinking that our family Mac was about to crash. God knows what sites she visits, but some scumbag, probably using a juicy bit "click bait" as a lure, managed to get this on her screen:

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc127/Piltdown_Man/IMG_1408_zpstdvufayo.jpg~original

Elsewhere on the screen were these little missives...

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc127/Piltdown_Man/IMG_1409_zpszkhwaozp.jpg~original

At the same time a very English voice suggested that she does not do any shopping as the computer has been compromised and that she does not turn off the computer but instead enters the details requested and then calls the number 0800 0903822. The other clever little trick about this wheeze was that it was very processor hungry, virtually denying you access to the mouse and keyboard.

The important thing is she did not do anything silly. But she also keeps forgetting we have a permanent back-up so if all else fails, we can recreate our Mac quite easily. She could have helped herself with 'Force Quit' but the second best thing in her case was to do nothing, which is what she did. Not wanting to go through 'Force Quit' over the phone we forced a power down. Job done. All resolved.

So just in case a chancer gets one of these images on your Mac..

PM

MightyGem
1st Feb 2017, 22:05
Not just on Macs:
who called me 08000903822 | who-called.co.uk (http://who-called.co.uk/Number/08000903822)

ExXB
2nd Feb 2017, 07:48
It looks like she was on Facebook when this happened. Perhaps they should be notified?

Interesting that;
They ask for a login and password, but don't say to what;
Disable BIOS memory options? On a Mac?;
Apple never refers to their comuters as MAC. They use Mac. MAC is Media Access Control in computer land.;
Etc.

You could have forced quit Safari (or any browser) by choosing Force Quit from the Apple () menu, or pressing Command-Option-Esc.

Biggles78
3rd Feb 2017, 17:01
May I suggest installing Malwarebytes for Mac (https://www.malwarebytes.com) and that sort of thing may be detected and stopped. I put it on all our machines, PCs that is, which has saved me many times from having to do a clean install of the wife's machine because she will click on ANYTHING that pops up, especially on FarceBork. It is also on my Mac but since that isn't really used so I don't know how effective it is on it, however, it is FREE so the price is right. :)

ExXB
4th Feb 2017, 10:19
May I suggest installing Malwarebytes for Mac (https://www.malwarebytes.com) and that sort of thing may be detected and stopped. I put it on all our machines, PCs that is, which has saved me many times from having to do a clean install of the wife's machine because she will click on ANYTHING that pops up, especially on FarceBork. It is also on my Mac but since that isn't really used so I don't know how effective it is on it, however, it is FREE so the price is right. :)

DO NOT CLICK ON THAT LINK

It starts an automatic download to your downloads folder. This is not the behaviour you would expect in a Malware program. I would be very, very, very cautious with a program like this.

(Yes, that will teach me to click on anything that appears on the screen)

And heaven protect us from Mac Malware programs. They are worse than the real thing.

le Pingouin
4th Feb 2017, 10:39
Here's the Malwarebytes page with the above link: https://www.malwarebytes.com/mac/

Saab Dastard
4th Feb 2017, 10:41
It is not a dodgy site or company.

The URL had /download/ appended to the site URL https://www.malwarebytes.com/

I have removed the /download/ in both posts and the URL now just takes one to the Malwarebytes landing page.

SD

yellowtriumph
4th Feb 2017, 13:00
DONT PRESS ON THE LINK I'VE POSTED BELOW.

Funny, I opened up Safari, opened up Pprune, opened up this sub-forum, clicked on this thread and the screen went blank followed by this link:

Redirect

It seemed to want me to download and update my 'flash' installation.

What the heck is that all about. I closed down Safari and started again and it hasn't re-appeared despite going through the same click sequence.

ExXB
5th Feb 2017, 08:56
yellowtriumph - probably an ad on the page requires Safari to use the Adobe. See https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2221806

yellowtriumph
5th Feb 2017, 09:24
Here's copy of the link, I've adulterated the http part so that it is not usable.

://testpconly12.prepare2upvideosafesystem4setnow.site/?pcl=7RD2Nzie5fRXJjLMoxij_1XlTu9CDsv8_npA5Kcjiy8.&cid=14862165381453062342103994344955114&pubid=1327287-1464577180-2528587433&v_id=JMrq4-UvmqDB0vuP0E5OKBxWCYUDNGrw0IGj32CPy9k.

Any further thoughts? (I've taken off the 'http' at the start of the link, otherwise its as per original)

le Pingouin
5th Feb 2017, 12:02
Run the URL through this web site - it scan the URL, runs through where it goes and produces an image of what's at the end: urlquery.net - Free URL scanner (http://urlquery.net/)

yellowtriumph
5th Feb 2017, 12:53
Le Pingouin, I reinstated the http and then pasted the complete link to the site as you suggested. It does show me the page I was re-directed to. I'm not clever enough to interpret the results I'm afraid. It does mention 'things' like Mozilla and Firefox etc, neither of which I have on the iMac.

Are you prepared to have a look and give me the benefit of your thoughts? Would be appreciated.

le Pingouin
6th Feb 2017, 10:57
Mozilla, Firefox, etc are just part of the user agent string that can be passed to a website when you browse so you can be served customised content to suit your browser and OS.

In this case the URL scanning site is masquerading as a browser so passes the relevant parameters to elicit whatever response the target web site will give.

The results show the final destination (a page on wonderlandads.com) is listed on a blacklist site as containing malware and if you click on the image the report provides you'll see it purports to be an update to Flash Player. Shall we say it absolutely reeks.

For those interested the report is here:

urlquery.net - Free url scanner (http://urlquery.net/report.php?id=1486378682455)

le Pingouin
6th Feb 2017, 11:53
Out of curiosity I visited the dodgy URL you posted (please don't do this yourself) using various user agent strings - a browser identifying as Windows based got the Flash Player, Java, assorted video players updates and even a Firefox plug-in offered, Mac got an offer to clean and speed up the OS and Flash Player update (the download was a dmg file) and Linux got ads.

I downloaded a number of them and uploaded them to VirusTotal https://www.virustotal.com/ - they were all picked up as adware/malware.

As they say, don't try this at home!

It appears to be a redirector page - redirecting to all manner of pages serving dodgy ads, adware and malware.

yellowtriumph
6th Feb 2017, 16:31
Many thanks le pengouin. As per my original post and query, all this came about as a result of simply clicking on a few pages here on Pprune on my iMac. I've not had this before or since. Glad I didn't go any further by the sound of it. Thanks again.

le Pingouin
7th Feb 2017, 12:19
And a very good reason to block advertising.

Guest 112233
7th Feb 2017, 20:04
I've always allowed advertising on sites that prompt me to allow adverts for valid reasons (smaller technical sites for example). However I now use an addon called Ublock Origin as a security feature.

CAT III

Malvertising is not going away Folks

le Pingouin
8th Feb 2017, 14:39
+1 for uBlock Origin here too.

yellowtriumph
9th Feb 2017, 08:09
Is that similar to Adblock? Compatible with mac etc?

le Pingouin
9th Feb 2017, 12:02
Yes, similar to Adblock but better! Works on Mac with Firefox and Safari.

yellowtriumph
9th Feb 2017, 16:28
Thank you again.

Background Noise
9th Feb 2017, 18:08
Her indoors has just picked up Advanced Mac Cleaner somehow - she has no idea how or when. I think I have removed it now, but will she have had to followed a link to install it? She says she was not asked for her admin password at any stage.

Jhieminga
10th Feb 2017, 14:21
Most likely, yes. There are some tips here: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7135825?tstart=0 but perhaps you found those already.

I often find that people don't recollect giving their admin password because when they did so, they thought it was related to something else entirely.

Background Noise
10th Feb 2017, 20:59
My other concern is that continual automatic backups, such as Time Machine, could inadvertently backup the malware.

ExXB
11th Feb 2017, 07:39
Malware is rare for the Mac. When it happens, and it does, the media usually have a feeding frenzy and everyone sooon knows about. All malware so far has taken the form of trojans or phishing.

I'd deactivate admin privledges for all users on the machine, and have a seperate admin account that can be used when appropriate.

Background Noise
11th Feb 2017, 08:56
Yes, but presumably any unwanted stuff can get itself into your time machine backup as well?

ExXB
11th Feb 2017, 09:42
Of course, but you just go back in time to a point before infection. You will lose all the interim stuff, but's that's often still better than the alternative.

I have an emergency (applescript) button that turns off all by backup processes (Time Machine; Carbon Copy cloner; Backblaze). As they are all scheduled for different times of the day I should be able to get back to a clean version.