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[Smokie]

I see that they are still recruiting Capts & FO's
Any update on terms and conditions, Rosters etc, as all recent info is well outdated here at the moment, so fresh imput gratefully appreciated.
I'm Rated 320/321 with hours on type and looking for a change of scenery.
Many thanks.

[BAe 146-100]

Pay is ok if you fly a lot, but thats the key word, you need to fly a lot to make the money. A/C new, Hanoi base only for new joiners, roster is a big negative, constant changes and switching from earlys to lates each day is common. Lots of 4 sector days and long duty times, Zero benefits. Guys are constantly leaving.

[Smokie]

OK thanks, still looking at JSP as well, trying to look at options.
JSP, Viet Jet and VN.

[BAe 146-100]

All of them is Hanoi base only, forget about Saigon.

[pfvspnf]

Captains pay for their upgrades here, is there anything more that needs to be said ?

[BAe 146-100]

And a lot of $$$, plus its a line training airline for low hour rich koreans. The question is can you join here as a experienced fo now, probably not.

Jsp have really upped the total time to apply, and with 3000/4000 tt there are many better places in the world to go then vietnam if you have those kind of hours already.

[Smokie]

Unfortunately Age is not on my side and I bust the age limit quite a bit these days. :(

[SuperJet]

Hi all,

Seems this thread petered out a few months ago. Just wondering if anyone has any details on the cadet programme terms, offer, remuneration, bases, contract, bond, etc? Any information would be useful. Not hearing the best morsels filtering through. Has anyone been through the process?

Much appreciated! Cheers.

SJ

[Merovingio]

And a lot of $$$, plus its a line training airline for low hour rich koreans. The question is can you join here as a experienced fo now, probably not.

Jsp have really upped the total time to apply, and with 3000/4000 tt there are many better places in the world to go then vietnam if you have those kind of hours already.

HI BAe,

Could you give me more feedback? Im in that situation, thinking what to do.... Thanks for your help!

[BAe 146-100]

They haven't hired an experienced fo in a while, you can always try but who knows if you get a reply or not.

[Balldontlie]

Hi everyone,
I'm new here and this is my first post:)
Has any heard of the vietjet program cadet line training?
The requirements are an ATPL frozen and a type rating on a320
I'm thinking about getting a type rating for this program but don't know if they take
People for no hours on a320 and plus a international applicant.
I'll be very thankful if anyone has information about this program, thank you.

[pfvspnf]

Can you please do some reading before posting ? This is a corrupt low standard place which has scammed many people on the past, please be very careful

[Balldontlie]

Can you please do some reading before posting ? This is a corrupt low standard place which has scammed many people on the past, please be very careful

Hi pfvspnf,

I did some reading about the post on an agency that scammed people and it is a p2f airline for other rich people, but I just want to know if I applied by myself through their own website for this program would it still be the same situation? Still, thanks for reminding.

[Roti Canai]

There are 2 other threads on here to check out @Balldontlie.

[airplanedriver]

Just checking what's the best way to apply for DEC? Heard the direct recruitment is not really responsive or actually maybe not even involved in the process anymore because of the notorious agency involved!!

[BAe 146-100]

Correct, quite a bit of luck or connections needed to get hired directly or your left with the agency you speak of.

[manfred42517]

All the compleints in this forum are 100 % accurate ! chien the former flight attendent did sim on singapore to a friend of mine , dual adr fault with engine fail ! vietnamese line trainings instructors are **** ! pay when you get it is good , during training ask for help to your friends , relatives if you go there without savings ...****nameses way of instruction is shout to the trainee , make feel him or her less than nothing , aircrafts ... cattle trailers , bins with masking tape , no stickers on mel items , a know a story of a plane who flew without toilet door !!!!taxi speeds on excess on 30 kts ...lots of scum from vietnam airlines there !

[pfvspnf]

I'm not surprised as all , since most of the captains have paid to be in the seat and I hear of a lot of incompetence too

[ikon757]

hi any info on latest terms on Vietjet for a 2017 Direct entry captain?

[Tinolatino]

Any one have any idea how to do the CAAV LICENSE and were can i get the Airlaw exam question bank

[TMFI]

I have caav question bank,but to convert get licence is impossible by yourself,you need to be introduce by the airline ($$$$$$$) this is all the p2f business

[pfvspnf]

Why do you choose to pay to work here ?

Everybody knows this airline is a joke and can't be taken seriously

[ikon757]

Its a LCC, any idea if they got Cappuccino for the crew?

[BAe 146-100]

Well its 2017 and the airline is still the same as its ever been. 15 hours from your pay slip missing a month that take forever to get back, every day 4 sectors with long duty times and multiple aircraft and crew changes, flying every day with low hour and low standard p2f's who when reach 300 hours on type will question you, locals who are spies for the management and untouchable, zero standardization and do it yourself sops. There is a reason no proper agency associates itself with this outfit and for good reason. Avoid.

[pfvspnf]

What do you mean ? 300 hour p2f question you ?

[Pin Head]

Hi

Can I ask please but when do they go NG?

Any requirement for contract pilots Then possibly?

Thanks

Pin

[TMFI]

we expect the 737 in the 2019 but im not sure that will happen,have double fleet for my is a hight risk,here the requirement
Experience requirements:

1. Total flight time: minimum 4,000hrs

2. A320 PIC hours: minimum 500hrs



Documentary requirements:

1. Maximum age of 60 for Males and 55 for females

2. Valid ICAO CPL/ATPL with A320 Type Rating

3. IR valid (or previous SIM Skill Test)

4. Valid Class 1 Medical

5. The last five papers of your logbook

6. Letter of Civil Aviation Authority of your country where issues your license

(with Name and email address of CAA Licensing Officer)

7. Recommendation Letter from previous Airlines

8. CV (Resume)

9. Application Form (vietjetair.com)

10. Criminal Record within 6 months (with Vietnam embassy authentication)

11. No history of Accident/Incident within 6 months

12. Scan copy your passport with at least 1 year validity

13. Proof of Last flight on A320 PIC within 12 months from the start of your employment with VJ

14. 06 hard copy of photos in uniform (white shirt, tie, stripe, white back ground, size 3x4 cm)

15. ICAO English Level 4 or higher

16. TRI/TRE certificate on A320 (if available)

[BAe 146-100]

What do you mean ? 300 hour p2f question you ?

300 hour wonder kids just released after paying over 100 grand think they know it all.

[manfred42517]

Vietjet ...still the same SH.T ...according to my friend , a LOT of RU**** = russian **** ...fake aeroflot tre/ tri , a pilot yuri after thrt/red acc alt set the levers to MCT ...ru****s go to sim do not know the EO Airbus profile , ex V/S 0, before flaps retraction open climb , ru**** english level - 4 ....the y pay chen 10K to pass the sim , chen still sending mails after being take away from deputy chief pilot ...sorry hero chen after the emergency landing in HK ...filipinos nice mf but they control roster , they fly more tahn 120 x month , so others pilos making less money !!! good flights to china 8 hours doing by the fili mafia , but at least filis are pilots not like the ru**** , by the way if there is sanitary paper to take for home from the aircraft , they do it , ru**** they eat , act and live like they are rats ! no english , no sops , no crm ,

[EagleA25]

In the Middle East, its the Indian Mafia; here its the Pilipinos... amazes me how incompetence gets rewarded...

[pfvspnf]

I would never ever hire anyone from vietjet esp their commanders . Entire place is a cartoon

[EagleA25]

I would never ever hire anyone from vietjet esp their commanders . Entire place is a cartoon

Actually, you should; a Captain leaving the circus means that they are in disagreement; now, a Commander getting kicked out due to disciplinary actions... that is another thing 😂

[pfvspnf]

The fact that you even worked there would probably mean your resume goes straight in the dust bin,

Are the 300 hour wonder kids coming every month ?

[HH Chan]

Vietjet ...still the same SH.T ...according to my friend , a LOT of RU**** = russian **** ...fake aeroflot tre/ tri , a pilot yuri after thrt/red acc alt set the levers to MCT ...ru****s go to sim do not know the EO Airbus profile , ex V/S 0, before flaps retraction open climb , ru**** english level - 4 ....the y pay chen 10K to pass the sim , chen still sending mails after being take away from deputy chief pilot ...sorry hero chen after the emergency landing in HK ...filipinos nice mf but they control roster , they fly more tahn 120 x month , so others pilos making less money !!! good flights to china 8 hours doing by the fili mafia , but at least filis are pilots not like the ru**** , by the way if there is sanitary paper to take for home from the aircraft , they do it , ru**** they eat , act and live like they are rats ! no english , no sops , no crm ,

I hope you are not from VietJet too..the way you write this reply is so hard to understand. Just like VietJet...

[manfred42517]

new captains in vjc , coming from vna ( experienced fos ) they pay $22000, did line training like vjc fos but they do not fly for at least a years as per training manual dictates ...so very easy ...vjc for upgrade pay whenever you are coming from , want to be an instructor lick the balls of chung and polish his car , vjc is the fakeist airline in the world, is a cartoon in all aspects ...question for a candidate: if captain vu tells you that you have to do a flight with a no go item you will do it, of course not !!! you are wrong because captain vu is always right ! REAL captains going ! more fakes been hired ! what will happen when an accident occurs ??? airbus will drag deeply on the training records and everybody in vjc will wash it hands passing the ball to each other, as I know from insiders an accident is almost knocking the door ...who will be fake JJ , a ru**** , a VC ... could be anyone because the standard of vj is there is no standard is a do what you want to do airline ...

[b18onboost]

new captains in vjc , coming from vna ( experienced fos ) they pay $22000, did line training like vjc fos but they do not fly for at least a years as per training manual dictates ...so very easy ...vjc for upgrade pay whenever you are coming from , want to be an instructor lick the balls of chung and polish his car , vjc is the fakeist airline in the world, is a cartoon in all aspects ...question for a candidate: if captain vu tells you that you have to do a flight with a no go item you will do it, of course not !!! you are wrong because captain vu is always right ! REAL captains going ! more fakes been hired ! what will happen when an accident occurs ??? airbus will drag deeply on the training records and everybody in vjc will wash it hands passing the ball to each other, as I know from insiders an accident is almost knocking the door ...who will be fake JJ , a ru**** , a VC ... could be anyone because the standard of vj is there is no standard is a do what you want to do airline ...

Hey Claes is that you?

[airbus1906]

Hello

Have few query about Viet Jet, if someone please share experience or expertise-

-Could someone please advice about command upgrade process in Viet Jet, how long it takes if someone Join with 5000 hours on Jet. Is upgrade assessment been fair enough or honest ?

-How day to day roster life as cockpit crew, do we get enough days off or is very busy roster

-How is training enviorment inside flight operations department, Is learning or punishing crew ?

Looking forward to hear some informations.

Thank you

Regards

[squarecrow]

@Manfred you don't mean Captain D.D.Vu by any chance ex DFO Cambodia Angkor.

[pfvspnf]

Only upgrade you're going to get is if you pay for it

[airbus1906]

Only upgrade you're going to get is if you pay for it

Thank you pfvspnf
Could you please share how long roughly it takes, if possible give some more information about airline.

[ixg888]

can someone please elaborate the working conditions here? in saigon and in hanoi.
thank you we are about to be seconded there because they lack pilots.

[Seagull201]

Hello to all,

Could someone please tell me the exact details of the Vietjet "Cadet line training programme?"

The details are on the Vietjet website and this programme is open.

There's no dealing with a third party, a middle man, it's direct dealings with the airline.

I'm well aware this is a pay to fly scheme, there's no dealing with a third party, a middle man, it's direct dealings with the airline.

i read stories of agencies (middle man) asking for 57K Euros and korean s paying 100K.

But nobody has actually answered any of the fly to pay scheme questions, correctly, all the responses are not clear.

***What i would like to know, if a person was the holder of an ICAO Frozen ATPL and an A320 type rating (simulator and written in license),
what is the exact total cost of this programme when dealing with the airline direct, as on the Vietjet website?

Also how many hours can a person log as a F/O under this programme?

Just looking for correct and honest answers, from people that have first hand knowledge?

I been to Vietnam for holidays, it's quite okay.

Thanks

[pfvspnf]

Lots of middle men involved ! It's a scam and a terrible airline where you will not get employment elsewhere with VJ on the cv

[pfvspnf]

I know plenty of people there and what they tell me is shocking , no standards no sops and plenty have been scammed in the past

[Smokie]

Lots of my erstwhile colleagues from JPA are at VJ this year. Don’t hear any complaints from them, in fact most of them like it there...:hmm:

[Aviator7777]

so guys I haven’t heard anything good either for Vietjet or Jetstar. On paper both airlines seem they offer great salary and upgrade opportunities. So what is the reality about them? Please advice.

[jsfboat]

What's the Vietnamese medical like or can I fly on my FAA medical? I have color vision issues so that's why I ask. Current B737 Captain with 500 PIC and 1900 on type looking for a change.

[iggy]

The CAAV has its own medical that includes Ishihara color vision test. Your FAA medical is not taken in account, you have to pass the CAAV one.

[jsfboat]

I can pass the FAA color vision test, but I interviewed with Eva and was offered the job, but couldn't pass the medical for color vision reasons. Wondering if the CAAV is more like the FAA or are they as brutal as the chinese?

[Luke SkyToddler]

jsfboat you won't get a simple answer to that here, for the simple reason that none of the medical regulations are written in English and none of the CAAV doctors speak English. A few things like BMI<30 are well known, but the rest they seem to make up on the spot

They have failed guys recently for missing teeth, "polyps in the sinuses" that were completely undetectable by western specialists, etc.

And no, you can't do the medical beforehand, you have to actually arrive in VN to start your new job and THEN get sent for the medical

If you're unemployed, then nothing to lose, but it would be very very very very unwise to quit a secure job and come here with a known medical issue, on the hope you'll get through

Also there's no B737s here in Vietnam, you know that right?

[iggy]

Also there's no B737s here in Vietnam, you know that right?

I think he is reffering to the 200 737MAX that VJ has on order. Wait until the airplane comes and it starts flying before making any move. If you happen to have actual time on the MAX you'd be hired anytime, no need to rush.

[jklm05]

hi all. looking for some info about VietJet. How long is the recruitment process? and how long does the training take? how much do they pay from day 1 of joining until completion of training? also, when does the commuting rotation start? would appreciate feedback here or please pm me. thanks.

[jsfboat]

I think he is reffering to the 200 737MAX that VJ has on order. Wait until the airplane comes and it starts flying before making any move. If you happen to have actual time on the MAX you'd be hired anytime, no need to rush.

I was hoping to get on when they start hiring for the Max flying, if they ever come. But I have a lot of NG time and 500 PIC on it, I'd even come as an FO. Just miserable with my current employer.

[umop apisdn]

They have failed guys recently for missing teeth, "polyps in the sinuses" that were completely undetectable by western specialists, etc.


That's just the doctors asking for a couple extra dong.

[BBB7700]

Hello Everyone,

I applied on the website for the cadet pilot position.
Vietjet contacted me and asked for my docs etc?

Nothing has been mentioned about money so far..

I do have previous Jet experience and a total time of about 800 hours..

Any Comments in what's coming next etc?

[Mumbai_radio]

Are you sure you are applying for cadet pilot position not DEFO? it is a pay to fly scheme for cpl holders with low hours

[BBB7700]

I have a frozen atpl
total time about 800 hrs
type rated on the A 320
about 400 jet hours..
as I said nothing was mentioned about money and yes it's the cadet pilot application I filled in..
will they ask me to pay later or something??
Any feedback is appreciated..

[Luke SkyToddler]

You can't join as a "cadet" without paying massive $. It's absolutely definitely pay-to-fly

You can't join as experienced FO unless you have 1500 total, 500 on type

[BAe 146-100]

No such things as can or cannot in Vietnam, money talks.

[BBB7700]

Well I got about 400 on the A320
800 total time

I was just asking if any one here has received the same offer ?

[Check2]

Hello all
just wondering if there is any info out there on the following
CAAC Theory test
Som Proficiency Check for licencing

[volare_737]

Any Captains here ? Would like to have a chat about how the commuting works and the money in the bank !! Thanks

[Fawaz]

Guys any info about the new hiring FO are they sending any emails back anyone from whos just apply? I applied on the website few days back and didnt here anything yet as A330 FO

[pfvspnf]

Good place to start the career , very reputable company

[cross bleed start]

Dear Fawaz,
VJ cancelled sending 2nd batch of in house pilots to Singapore for A 330 type rating training.
Good luck.

[Fawaz]

Hi there so is this a good news for people whos applying now to join ?
not really sure getting your point sir

[cross bleed start]

Unfortunately It’s bad news for you.
My point was that Vietjet need less A330 pilots than they initially planned at the moment.
Your chance of getting email from Vietjet become less accordingly.

[Fawaz]

Thats alrite mate thanks lets see how things would go

[hamd]

Yes the second batch of in house pilots that was supposed to go to singapore was cancelled due to longer quarantine requirement, heard that they need 20 FO and 20 Capts now. Not a big number, I guess some of the slots can be easily filled by the locals.

[Fawaz]

Why would they send people to singapore when they are hiring a valid A330 guys ?

[pfvspnf]

Fawaz you need to contact the manager , $$$

[xfr]

Are they recruiting for the A330 again now?

[xfr]

Does anyone else get an error when submitting an application on the website?

[manfred42517]

they are not hiring, they are just creating a hold pool like bamboo, here we are flying like 80-85 lots of guys on LWP waiting to be recalled. Salary stinks.

[manfred42517]

news from VJC Flight corruption department led by a girl that doesn't know how to write an email miss dung nguyen kieu code name julie with a big title of deputy manager of charging and planning what to do with pilots money department sent an email with a promoniotal code of 32K to rejoin ****jet....email have rounded the world like 3 times so is officila VJC will charge pilots FO, Instructors, captains with the promotional amount of 32000 USD !!! **** ****jet!!!

[manfred42517]

late jet, still paying late , one year with the same issue , maybe the new russians joiners do not complain or can live with less money/income...one of the main reasons pilots leaving, bom email ****, no ontime payment ... when a pilot intends to leave even the ****ty carry on they try to charge ....