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L-Plater
29th Nov 2016, 07:14
A China Eastern aircraft landed in Sydney today in an apparent turbulent landing.

The aircraft landed safely thankfully but some passengers required hospital treatment.

Other aircraft landed around the same time without suffering incidents.

It seems some passengers may not have been wearing seatbelts at the time of the incident.


Sydney airport: Turbulence on China Eastern flight leaves seven hospitalised (http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/incidents/passengers-injured-in-turbulence-on-sydney-flight/news-story/dc527aebc87088f6657caef1162b2ba1)

Preemo
29th Nov 2016, 10:36
Seven injured in Sydney flight turbulence (http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/seven-injured-in-sydney-plane-turbulence/news-story/11b28b170a5320bd01d43abeacac3f1c)

a "shaky landing"

DaveReidUK
29th Nov 2016, 11:44
The "shaky landing" happened at FL200.

basmand
29th Nov 2016, 18:07
From what I hear from my girlfriend, who is an FA for QF, it's often the Chinese that stand up/walk around on finals and touchdown. I'm not surprised.

IsDon
29th Nov 2016, 18:46
From what I hear from my girlfriend, who is an FA for QF, it's often the Chinese that stand up/walk around on finals and touchdown. I'm not surprised.

Natural selection at work right there.

Karunch
29th Nov 2016, 20:17
After the seatbelt sign has been left on for entire 10+ hour flight, passengers tend to take it for granted. Chinese FA's will not challenge J class passengers so this type of event is inevitable.

romeocharlie
29th Nov 2016, 21:07
Totally unsurprising.

Extreme airline complaints: Chinese passengers attack flight crews, open plane doors (http://www.traveller.com.au/extreme-airline-complaints-chinese-passengers-attack-flight-crews-open-plane-doors-2b6m4)

Witnessed plenty of darwin award contenders getting up and walking around while the sign is on.

spinex
29th Nov 2016, 22:19
I think you'll find that the shaky landing referred to the state of the passengers on landing - there is a video circulating locally of a female pax who is best described as a gibbering wreck.

tail wheel
29th Nov 2016, 22:25
http://www.pprune.org/australia-new-zealand-pacific/587579-china-eastern-turbulent-sydney-landing.html

oicur12.again
29th Nov 2016, 23:55
A lot of the fo's in the jumpseat dont wear seatbelts on take or landing too!!!

brown_hornet
30th Nov 2016, 00:13
Landing just yesterday in Honkers, we heard one of our FAs through the cockpit door yelling at someone to sit down.....turns out someone thought a few seconds before the retard call was the perfect time to stretch their legs:ugh:

Slezy9
30th Nov 2016, 02:17
A lot of the fo's in the jumpseat dont wear seatbelts on take or landing too!!!
There are only 3 seats (and seat belts) in the cockpit of a RAAF P3, however there are regularly 5 people up the front for takeoff and landing....

No one is sitting on anyone's lap!

oicur12.again
30th Nov 2016, 02:24
Yep, i recall many years ago 6 of us in the 320 cockpit bumping around the avalon circuit.

sealear
30th Nov 2016, 02:31
From what I hear from my girlfriend, who is an FA for QF, it's often the Chinese that stand up/walk around on finals and touchdown. I'm not surprised.
I spend a lot of time down the back, and I have seen that many times with my own eyes!!

PoppaJo
30th Nov 2016, 02:50
After the seatbelt sign has been left on for entire 10+ hour flight, passengers tend to take it for granted.
Is this some sort of SOP because I've seen it on CZ also?

My company is very pro talking to pax before departure/cruise about the usual weather, arr times etc...I've never heard anything from any pilots on at least half dozen Chinese flight.

underfire
30th Nov 2016, 03:07
First off, according to the airline, the ac was in cruise.

Perhaps it is best to leave off all of the comments regarding Chinese passengers.

Aussie Airlines that enforce the seatbelt sign? I am certain, having extensive experience flying around Oz, that there are very, very few.

Flights around China and other countries are much different, ever seen a pax have a goat as carryon? well it happens (and it okay on many flights)

Regarding the pax, ever been on a Ramadan flight?

Sorry, but it IS the crew job to educate and enforce, which in reality, I see very little of. When was the last time when the SB sign came on, the cabin crew went around and observed/enforced the SB requirement?

Chadzat
30th Nov 2016, 04:09
Its a procedure and happens on the majority of times the FSB sign is used at VA. Often to the detriment of the safety of the cabin crew if it gets really bad....

Hasselhof
30th Nov 2016, 04:20
Aussie Airlines that enforce the seatbelt sign? I am certain, having extensive experience flying around Oz, that there are very, very few.

Funny that, at a fair guess I'd say that a lot of people that post on this site have extensive experience flying around Oz too.

Flights around China and other countries are much different, ever seen a pax have a goat as carryon? well it happens (and it okay on many flights)

No, not in Australia. And that's what we are talking about, a flight into Australia. And since that anecdote has nothing at all to do with pax injuries whilst not wearing seat belts during a landing (as it has been reported in the press mind you) I'm not entirely sure why you would bring it up.

When was the last time when the SB sign came on, the cabin crew went around and observed/enforced the SB requirement?

You serious? Umm... every single time I've been on pax on a flight inside the Australian (and many other) FIRs? I can't think of a time where they haven't.

tail wheel
30th Nov 2016, 04:41
This thread is all about:

A China Eastern aircraft landed in Sydney today in an apparent turbulent landing.

The aircraft landed safely thankfully but some passengers required hospital treatment.

Other aircraft landed around the same time without suffering incidents.

Nothing more - and most certainly not about alleged airline practices in China.

If you've all finished discussing the China Eastern incident in Sydney, I am happy to close the thread as the B... S..., willie wagging and sound of instant expert keyboards is getting a tad too deep!!

:mad:

DaveReidUK
30th Nov 2016, 06:44
I think you'll find that the shaky landing referred to the state of the passengers on landing

No.

While I'm sure that's a good description of the state of the pax when they disembarked, the reference in the article linked by the OP said

"Seven people have been injured when a plane hit turbulence while landing at Sydney's International Airport. Five passengers and two crew members were taken to hospital after China Eastern flight MU777 from China encountered a shaky landing about 2.45pm on Tuesday. Three suffered neck injuries, while the others suffered a lacerated jaw, minor head wound, wrist injury and back pain."

which is a ludicrous way to describe something that had actually happened at 20,000 feet, 20 minutes previously..

Fliegenmong
30th Nov 2016, 07:06
Umm...for what it's worth, I have observed this on US carriers on domestic routes....

Keg
30th Nov 2016, 09:32
Aussie Airlines that enforce the seatbelt sign? I am certain, having extensive experience flying around Oz, that there are very, very few.

Can't speak for the other group entities but in QF mainline, seat belt sign on, everyone sits...... and it's enforced. I'd be surprised if the subsidiaries were too different. So that's 60% of Aussie airlines covered.

RobShan
30th Nov 2016, 10:20
I suspect flaring at 20,000 feet would produce a shaky landing. :ooh:

Vorsicht
30th Nov 2016, 10:34
Same for the other airline group Keg.