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pravg
28th Nov 2016, 18:04
Who knows more about the emergency landing of an EasyJet A320 in Newscastle (Flight Edinborough - Hamburg)? Apparently pilots treated in Hospital because of smoke inhilation.

atakacs
28th Nov 2016, 18:27
Local press article (http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/easyjet-flight-makes-emergency-landing-12243103)

Seems smoke was limited to the cockpit. I guess this one will be formally investigated?

Heathrow Harry
29th Nov 2016, 08:44
I damn well hope so!!!!

noflynomore
29th Nov 2016, 10:18
What makes you think it might not be investigated?

tonker
29th Nov 2016, 10:30
Because it's been going on for years on most types, and aircrew have died for nothing. The CAA will never act on this or FTLs, there's too much money at stake.

golfbananajam
29th Nov 2016, 11:16
@atakacs, please let us NOT confuse fumes (mentioned in the press report you linked to) with smoke (in your post) even if the report does make mention of a burning smell.

atakacs
29th Nov 2016, 12:38
Point taken, although at this stage we don't quite know if it was either...
Is there any "official" definition of those?

Brian W May
29th Nov 2016, 15:54
Presumably you can SEE smoke, but not fumes?

golfbananajam
29th Nov 2016, 16:41
fume
English
Noun

A gas or vapour/vapor that smells strongly or is dangerous to inhale. Fumes are solid particles formed by condensation from the gaseous state, e.g. metal oxides from volatilized metals. They can flocculate and coalesce. Their particle size is between 0.1 and 1 micron. (A micron is one millionth of a metre)

smoke
English
Noun

The visible vapor/vapour, gases, and fine particles given off by burning or smoldering material.


all in all, it's as clear as mud. to my simple mind, smoke is from fires, fumes are from exhausts or chemical reactions but.....................

lomapaseo
29th Nov 2016, 18:10
All well and good description afterwards ..... but what are they to the human sense during the event as "I smell smoke"

wiggy
30th Nov 2016, 08:15
FWIW my better half thinks I'm "nose blind" so it's just as well the appropriate checklist covers both options and is labelled "Smoke/fumes....."

As an aside it's perhaps interesting this thread is so short, if it had been another outfit we'd have been up to page 5, 10 or more by now.....