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piperboy84
20th Jul 2016, 16:32
OLd numbers Empty Weight 1425, CG 10.86, Moment 15481.03

Equipment Removed (1) Weight 56 Arm -61.3
Equipment Removed (2) Weight 4.0 Arm -62.2

Equipment Added (1) Weight 52.0 Arm -61.3
Equipment Added (2) Weight 2.0 Arm -62.2

New Empty Weight 1419, CG ?, Moment?

sycamore
20th Jul 2016, 16:58
Original moment is 15475.5.
New wt.1419 @[email protected]

piperboy84
20th Jul 2016, 17:05
Muchas Gracias Sycamore.

OpenCirrus619
20th Jul 2016, 17:10
Arm (CG) = Moment / Weight
To nearest 2 decimal places

Starting: 10.86 = 15481 / 1425

Kit you're removing:
-56 * -61.3 = 3432.8
-4 * -62.2 = 248.8

After removal:
Weight = 1425 + (-56) + (-4) = 1365
Moment = 15481 + 3432.8 + 248.8 = 19162.6
CG (Arm) = 19162.6 / 1365 = 14.04

Kit you're adding:
52 * -61.3 = -3187.6
2 * -62.2 = -124.4

After adding:
Weight = 1365 + 52 + 2 = 1419
Moment = 19162 + (-3187.6) + (-124.4) = 15850.6
CG (Arm) = 15850.6 / 1419 = 11.17

New Empty Weight: 1419, CG: 11.17, Moment: 15850.6

PLEASE get someone else to verify these before trusting them when doing W&B calculations before flight.

OC619

Edited to add:
This seems reasonable because if you're removing weight with a negative ARM then the result would be to make the ARM more positive

India Four Two
20th Jul 2016, 17:42
I agree with Open Cirrus
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/Screen%20Shot%202016-07-20%20at%2011.38.12%20_zpso4wcfupp.png

pb, I would have thought your AME would have done a new W&B.

piperboy84
20th Jul 2016, 17:43
pb,
I would have thought your AME would have done a new W&B?[/QUOTE]

Oh he will, but wants to charge me an arm and a leg (pun intended) to do it because he didn't get the prop sale, so I'm going to present him with the amended calcs for signature about 10 minutes before I get my checkbook out to write a 20k check for the inspection.

India Four Two
20th Jul 2016, 17:50
Well let me wait a "moment" before I decide what my charge will be. ;)

OK. Let's just call it a trade for my ride in your "little yellow plane". You'll have to negotiate separately with Open Cirrus.

OpenCirrus619
20th Jul 2016, 17:58
I spend most of my time in the gliding world - it works slightly differently from the power one, in that most things (including instructor time) are donated free of charge.

The odd beer (after the hangar doors are shut) doesn't go unappreciated.

Enjoy :ok:

OC619

dont overfil
21st Jul 2016, 21:59
AME? Aviation medical examiner? Have you put on weight as well?

India Four Two
22nd Jul 2016, 05:34
Well spotted, dont overfill.

For AME, read A&P. ;)