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maximus610
9th Jun 2016, 19:04
Hi folks,

do I have to be current (3 landings last 90 days) to instruct the NIT even I do

hold a valid IR (but not an IRI nor FI-IR privileges)?

Cheers

Mxms

Whopity
9th Jun 2016, 20:45
A pilot shall not operate an aircraft in commercial air transport or carrying passengers:A training flight is not commercial air transport, and your student who is a crew member, is not a passenger, so currency does not apply.

Whopity
9th Jun 2016, 22:56
Which does not change anything, as neither condition applies!

BEagle
10th Jun 2016, 06:45
It quite clearly means that, as one of the conditions for providing flight instruction for the night rating, the FI must have carried out in the preceding 90 days at least 1 take-off, approach and landing at night as a pilot flying in an aircraft of the same type or class or an FFS representing that type or class - or he/she must hold an IR,

Tell me how on earth you read it any other way, Whopity :confused:

Sleeve Wing
10th Jun 2016, 08:37
Itís all just words really, isnít it, like the rest of this EASA bullsh*t.

Why not just say the FI must be current ?

No wonder I donít examine or instruct any moreÖÖÖ!

maximus610
10th Jun 2016, 10:35
I'm still confused whether with just my valid IR I can instruct the NIT (for

which I have anyway the privileges as FI) even I do have not the FI-IR

priveleges. :ugh:

MrAverage
10th Jun 2016, 11:40
I have to agree with Whopity Beagle. This only applies if you're carrying passengers at night. A night rating student is not a passenger. The instructor can effectively do his "one at night" whilst instructing the student, who logs Pu/t.

maximus610
10th Jun 2016, 15:00
Yes, I do meet the requirements

Level Attitude
11th Jun 2016, 09:49
maximus610,
If you hold a valid IR then you do not need to have carried out one night landing in the previous 90 days (the fact that you are not qualified to teach for the IR is irrelevant).

FCL.905.FI FI ó Privileges and conditions

The privileges of an FI are to conduct flight instruction for the issue, revalidation or renewal of:

(e) the night rating, provided that the FI:
(1) is qualified to fly at night in the appropriate aircraft category;

(2) has demonstrated the ability to instruct at night to an FI qualified in accordance with (i) below; and

(3) complies with the night experience requirement of FCL.060(b)(2);
This only applies if you're carrying passengers at night. A night rating student is not a passenger. The instructor can effectively do his "one at night" whilst instructing the student, who logs Pu/tI am sorry Mr A but this is incorrect - otherwise there would have been no reason for EASA to include the paragraph FCL.905.FI(e)(3) at all.

To instruct for the Night Rating an FI must comply with the night experience requirement of FCL.060(b)(2);

The only case where, provided it is agreed that a student is a crew member not a passenger, this experience requirement would not apply is for instruction given to someone who already holds a Night Rating (Revalidation and Renewal not being applicable) - Such as someone requiring one night landing before themselves taking passengers and preferring to do that with an Instructor instead of solo,

maximus610
11th Jun 2016, 12:33
Thanks LA, now is more

cleared.