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B737NG_Pilot
22nd May 2016, 05:07
The target speed displayed (magenta) on the PFD is always 1 knot less than the TGT speed set in the DES page (FMC).

Example we have set TGT SPD 250 Knots on the descent page.... The target speed displayed on the PFD is 249 knots.

Any reason why the 1 knot difference ??

bob777
22nd May 2016, 05:27
Wow..big problemo. How about hand flying a bit and not giving a **** about 1 knot ...you a pilot right..or an anal pushbutton operator?

Chesty Morgan
22nd May 2016, 05:49
Don't know why it happens but if you deselect then reselect VNAV it then displays the correct speed.

STBYRUD
23rd May 2016, 18:20
Rounding error... the VNAV (formula derived) speeds are converted to integers in different ways by the DEUs and for display in the CDU, its absolutely meaningless for flying the thing though :ok:

ImbracableCrunk
23rd May 2016, 21:40
I've seen it many times. I'm not sure how it can be a rounding error if I overwrite the ECON speed and put in .78/280 for descent.

Maybe I need to put in .78/280.00. :p

underfire
25th May 2016, 06:16
Wasnt there something in the aircraft logic that limits the speed below 10K to 245 kts to avoid busting the 250 limit?

Capt Claret
25th May 2016, 11:43
Very helpful Bob. A great example of the camaraderie of pilots. :ugh:

stilton
26th May 2016, 04:00
Bob's version of camaraderie is looking in the mirror.

OK465
26th May 2016, 18:29
For some odd reason a line from the Tom Hardy movie "The Drop" comes to mind.

"They never see you coming, do they Bob?"

738 default below 10M is 240. CI plays a role in what active speed is displayed regardless of manual entries, depending on the STAR restrictions.

flash8
26th May 2016, 19:28
Bob are you related to the departed (but not forgotten) 411A....? ;)

Derfred
27th May 2016, 04:59
Yep, we have a few Bob's in our airline. Not many fortunately.

CI plays a role in what active speed is displayed regardless of manual entries, depending on the STAR restrictions.

I don't understand this statement. If I enter a fixed speed, what has CI to do with it? Could you elaborate?

OK465
27th May 2016, 16:33
I don't understand this statement. If I enter a fixed speed, what has CI to do with it? Could you elaborate?

Yes, upon further review, I don't understand it either, my statement is a dumb one. Just call me Bob.

The situation I was trying unsuccessfully to allude to is a CI descent after T/D where the active CI speed, for example is 279, but the first waypoint on the STAR is coded 280. The active speed will remain 279 approaching and crossing the waypoint when one might expect 280.

Derfred
29th May 2016, 18:25
No worries OK...