Turkish Airlines off runway in Pristina

[ATC Watcher]

Just heard this .apparently no injuries.
BREAKING Turkish Airlines #TK1019 ran out of runway at Pristina (Kosovo) | AIRLIVE.net (http://www.airlive.net/breaking-turkish-airlines-tk1019-ran-out-of-runway-at-pristina-kosovo/)

[Cloud1]

Were they using the chutes? It's hard to tell but all I can see once again is passengers carrying their friggin hand luggage

[Ancient Mariner]

I have to say I'm more concerned about pilots running their aircraft off runways than pax carrying their luggage off aircrafts.

[SMT Member]

If you watch the video in the link, you'll see one of the passengers being a good netizen, recording his walk down a set of stair with his selfie stick for direct upload to the innerweb. Wearing a plastic bag on his head ...

Haven't TK seen a fair share of overrun events lately?

[readywhenreaching]

jacdec.de (http://www.jacdec.de/2016/05/02/2016-05-02-turkish-airlines-boeing-737-800-off-runway-at-pristina/)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChfDyhzWkAAJs7_.jpg

[EDDT]

Haven't TK seen a fair share of overrun events lately?

- Reminds me of Onur Air 330 in Nürnberg, Germany just days ago.

[cucuotto]

Not surprised..loads of kiddo captain no background that think they can learn flying by rote plus a kind of immature arrogant pride...very dangerous if summed to the overall training mayhem and rushed expansion...not my carrier of choice..from experience.

[lederhosen]

It will be interesting to find out what the actual wind was at the time. Looks like they flew the VOR35, which is a fun approach if you know it, but easy to get wrong if you don't. With a bit of tailwind and rain things can get a bit tricky. I have had more go-arounds there than anywhere else due to the wind being out of limits on final. To be fair to the tower the mountains all around do affect the wind. Mornings you tend to get the ILS17 swinging round to the VOR35 in the afternoon and then back again in the evening. They may just have skidded while taxying off. But if it was a genuine overrun then the combination of airport, airline and other factors add up.

[sabenaboy]

Not surprised..loads of kiddo captain no background that think they can learn flying by rote plus a kind of immature arrogant pride...very dangerous if summed to the overall training mayhem and rushed expansion...not my carrier of choice..from experience.

I tend to agree...
THY A343 at Antananarivo on Jan 9th 2016, touched down short of runway (http://www.avherald.com/h?article=4930e532&opt=0)
THY A333 at Kathmandu on Mar 4th 2015, runway excursion and nose gear collapse (http://www.avherald.com/h?article=482a5e9e&opt=0)
THY B738 at Birmingham on Oct 24th 2015, tail strike indication (http://www.avherald.com/h?article=48e60abc&opt=0)
THY B738 at Sarajevo on Jun 3rd 2015, burst two main tyres on landing (http://www.avherald.com/h?article=4874d5d1&opt=0)
THY A320 at Istanbul on Apr 25th 2015, hard landing, go-around, engine problem, gear problem, gear collapse, runway excursion (http://www.avherald.com/h?article=48546eb6&opt=0)
...

I will avoid them if I can.

[SMT Member]

Scary reading, sabenaboy, not less so if we add the AMS accident to the pile.

Perhaps it would be best, if TK was given some time to cool down and think about things. For instance by excusing them from EU airspace for a few months, while they get their sh1t sorted.

They are on my avoid list too.

[lomapaseo]

They may need a visit by the joint air safety team from Boeing and Airbus. These guys are pretty good at pointing to lessons learned without the need for regulators with large painting brushes

[Sunamer]

They may need a visit
The problem is, that the visit is not mandatory, hence it is unlikely to happen.

[captplaystation]

As Europe is about to be "open house" to them I guess we can look forward to further expansion of their European network as passenger figures increase (at least on North & West bound sectors :rolleyes: )

[lomapaseo]

The problem is, that the visit is not mandatory, hence it is unlikely to happen.

extremely likely without fanfare if the data is confirmed

[PJ2]

Has TK passed an IOSA and if so, does anyone know when the last one was?

[TypeIV]

Yep, they have, dunno when the last one was though.

[silvertate]

Not surprised..loads of kiddo captain no background that think they can learn flying by rote plus a kind of immature arrogant pride....

Sums it up nicely. After a similar slide at XXX (not in the list above) I was told by a senior training captain that: "No Turkish pilot has ever made a mistake....". Apart from sliding off the runway, of course. (Apparently, that was the fault of Boeing, because if you do a real greaser landing in a Boeing, the gear always collapses... Seriously.)

[TypeIV]

Hard landing in Tblisi with A/C grounded today and brake units toasted in Hatay yesterday upon landing on another A/C.

[Flying Clog]

I'm noticing a bit of a trend here.

I think I'll avoid this lot thank you very much.

[Doors to Automatic]

Does anyone know details of the Pristina incident yet? Touchdown point, speed etc.

[DaveReidUK]

and brake units toasted in Hatay yesterday upon landing on another A/C.

Yes, landing on another aircraft is never a good idea.

[PJ2]

Flying Clog, re "I'm noticing a bit of a trend here." Well, that's why I asked about the IOSA process. While its a complex and involved step that an airline doesn't take lightly, it also isn't forever and there seems a bit of a trend here.

[sabenaboy]

Yesterday, may 5th 2016:

THY A321 at Tbilisi on May 5th 2016, hard landing (http://www.avherald.com/h?article=497e0eb8&opt=0)
:} :\

[sabenaboy]

Does anyone know details of the Pristina incident yet? Touchdown point, speed etc.

May 4th 2016 The Aviation Herald received information that touch down marks were identified about 1500 meters down the 2500 meter long runway. ( source (http://www.avherald.com/h?article=497beb72&opt=0))

[Flying Clog]

Wow! The hits they keep on coming!

Well done Turkish!

[Ottoforce]

Heard this before, Said this before, it's a matter of arrogance, lack of training, Ottoman culture and sheer lack of will to comply with any rules.
They are EASA now! How the hell did that happen with their track record? Oh yes MONEY and corrupt expats helping them to bend the rules for now until they are no longer needed or the big one happens and they are banged up in a Turkeeesh jail wihich is where they should be but for now supping the black stuff, enjoy#1 European Airline of the year!€

[fdr]

not dull anyway