View Full Version : Major step on ADS-B approvals
On Friday last Week NATS, the LAA and the BMAA made separate press releases regarding ADS-B out on permit aircraft (see below). This was coordinated by FASVIG (Future Airspace Strategy VFR Implementation Group) which also had input into the press release.
NATS have provided the results of its ADS-B trial which shows that uncertified GPS sources are more accurate than certified (again see below).
The LAA and the BMAA can now issue permanent mods for ADS-B out and no longer have to use NATS R&D resources for verification – thanks to the hard work of the people at Pilot Aware. FASVIG are also working on making things simpler for C of A aircraft to use the same approach.
This is something I feel strongly about and have been pushing for since 2011. I have continued as part of the FASVIG team working on ADS-B since July last year.
Reducing the cost of ADS-B ? Future Airspace Strategy VFR Implementation Group (http://fasvig.org/reducing-the-cost-of-ads-b)
Rod1
robin
15th Mar 2016, 15:34
Shame it doesn't appear to apply to the CofA fleet. Any chance of the CAA taking the same line?
Forfoxake
15th Mar 2016, 18:35
Great news Rod1. I look forward to picking up some light aircraft, in addition to most airliners, on my PowerFLARM. Do you have any views on the most cost-effective ADS-B out solution?
robin - I am not working on that side but I will get an update next Sunday. I think we are close to a solution.
Forfoxake - depends on your aircraft fit. If you have a permit aircraft with an existing mode s transponder which supports ES and a GPS, than all you need is an RS232 cable to connect them, a bit of user setup and you are go. The MOD from the BMAA and LAA is free but you will still have to follow it to remain legal and safe.
Rod1
DeltaV
15th Mar 2016, 19:41
...but you will still have to follow it to remain legal and safe.
Legal I get, but safe?
RatherBeFlying
16th Mar 2016, 05:06
Rod1, Thank you, NATS and the CAA for excellent work.
I've passed this on to the ras group (mostly North American glider flyers).
It is strange to see in EASA land a much more GA friendly initiative than in the US where the FAA is mandating a gold plated ADS-B Out spec for GA in 2020.
A and C
16th Mar 2016, 08:30
EASA land more GA friendly ? I think not its the UK CAA and the LAA that have seen the light.
EASA aircraft need an STC for ADS-B.
kghjfg
16th Mar 2016, 11:01
The LAA and the BMAA can now issue permanent mods for thanks to the hard work of the people at Pilot Aware.
Rod1
another announcement this morning over at PilotAware
Glide Slope to Manufacture (http://forum.pilotaware.com/index.php/topic,340.0.html)
The use of Uncertifed GPS in C of A aircraft is aparantly some way off:sad:
Rod1
fulham fan
24th Mar 2016, 10:23
on the subject of ADS B - CAA has released new proposals for allowing EC devices New easy process to enable electronic identification of light aircraft announced | UK Civil Aviation Authority (http://www.caa.co.uk/News/New-easy-process-to-enable-electronic-identification-of-light-aircraft-announced/)
Sir George Cayley
24th Mar 2016, 17:03
Whilst I welcome any initiative that helps with not hitting another machine during flight, I'm not sure interoperability has been demonstrated.
Would not the ideal solution be that FLARM, PilotAware, NATS LPAT and any other EC device that follows has the ability to work with any of the other devices and vice versa?
Maybe I'm not keeping up but I thought the LPAT has only been tested against LPAT. Also, for those with Mode S txpndrs not Mode ES will they show up at all?
My worry is the risk of pilots believing they have a bit of kit that detects far less traffic than the think leading to an unsafe situation.
SGC