CX101 21Feb

[cxslave]

Company 'forced' to switch tonight's CX101 to Sydney tonight from 777 to a regional A330. Apparently due to a lack of 777 drivers...........

[OK4Wire]

That's gotta hurt! Love me those regional J class seats.

[AQIS Boigu]

That regional business/economy class rocks - another 300 pax who will never fly with us again!!!

And how about that awesome J-class rest seat for the crew; reminds me of RUH/BAH...

[Natca]

J class seat? That's if your lucky we usually end up in y class or on the Jumpseat .... The Airbus really sucks guys.

[BuzzBox]

Natca, if you're 'resting' on the jump seat during a HKG-SYD flight where the scheduled sector time is over 9 hours, then you are ILLEGAL.

[joblow]

879 from San Fran was also delayed last week, no reason given, but presumably a shortage of available crew
Who says CC isn't hurting

[broadband circuit]

Who says CC isn't hurting

CX Spin Doctors.....

[betpump5]

Regional Airbus with the Old Sliding Economy seats. Qantas have just gained 300 new customers.

Well done Cathay Pacific. Bunch of farkin clowns the lot of them.

[Sand Man]

Maybe the SO was sick of being burnt out

[Natca]

Nah im getting at the dxb, ruh, and top end oz flights.

[mr did]

Have now heard from 2 sources (so must be true!) that one of the Sydney 777 patterns is going back to an airbus full time due crewing issues. All those extra seats (revenue) lost.

[geh065]

Have now heard from 2 sources (so must be true!) that one of the Sydney 777 patterns is going back to an airbus full time due crewing issues. All those extra seats (revenue) lost.

Its all in the master schedule on IntraCX, the 777 is slowly being pulled off SYD this summer.

[Zapp_Brannigan]

How it should work:

Commercial department decides on the aircraft they want to use
-> FOP pays what they must to find the crew
-> the crew fly the planes
-> company makes money

How it (doesn't) work(s) at CX:

FOP decides not to pay their crew as they used to
-> FOP doesn't find enough (experienced) crew
-> FOP thinks the only solution is to reduce the number of pilots on long haul flights
-> FOP pisses off / works to death all the remaining pilots and thus has even less pilots available
-> FOP tells commercial department they have to reduce the number of flights
-> company makes less money

I can't believe our managers are so stubborn, proud and arrogant that they can't admit they were wrong.

2006-2008 was not a perfect example as how to run an expansion, but at least we recruited massively.
Now we are just struggling to keep the same amount of pilots.

[betpump5]

Its a sh1t show this place. I can't believe they think they can run a global company like this in the 21st century. AT has lost the plot and realized that the Mother Hen approach that she had on Day 1 no longer works and has decided to bury her head in the sand. Not to mention that clown Ivan Who - does he do anything apart from having his picture taken? He is running this place into the ground and the shareholders are allowing it. Maybe its a culture thing that I haven't yet fully grasped in Hong Kong. Either way we all know how sh1te this airline has become. It will be very interesting how long they can survive like this.

[Soul planet]

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[cxorcist]

Betpump5,

I agree 100%. The brand has been severely compromised. How long will CX fetch premium fares while other carriers offer the same product or better for less money? I'm not just referring to the ME3, but all the other airlines serving Hong Kong, including LCCs. CX is well and truly middle of the pack now. With declining reliability and OTP, that position is dropping like a rock. What are the Management doing about it? Repainting airplanes! Nero fiddles...

For most foreign carriers, Hong Kong is one of their most profitable routes. How long will they resist adding services here whilst CX flushes its only hub and first mover advantages down the toilet. Between the high fare O&D traffic and all the connecting passengers and cargo, the Hong Kong aviation market is truly a goldmine. Yet, CX has found a way to screw it up despite being the only major airline hubbing from Hong Kong. It's just sad to watch. I'm genuinely worried.

It's liking handing a successful business to one's offspring and watching as they destroy it with their ignorance, laziness, and immaturity. It's pure pain for those who built it with their own hard labour. As CX pilots for XX numbers of years, we all have had a part in growing this Company, but who amongst us feels any pride or ownership as stakeholders? Certainly not me. Is that a failure on my part or did "management" lose the plot somewhere along the way?

This is not irreversible, but it could become so if real leadership does not take over. Swires, I beg of you... Hire some real airline leaders who know what the hell they are doing. These leaders need to understand how all the different moving parts of the airline relate to and synergize with the others. The different departments cannot be viewed in isolation, ignoring the inter-connectedness. CX is managed in vertically non-integrated silos. If that doesn't change, the airline will become irreversiblely doomed within this decade.

[Average Fool]

I've thought the same thing. Bring in airline people!!

This is an airline, not a Starbucks.

[swh]

Swires, I beg of you... Hire some real airline leaders who know what the hell they are doing.

The current Delta CEO Richard Anderson is available after May 2, 2016.

[gretzky99]

I've got a mate who is about to finish in Adelaide and has just had his start date pushed back almost 3 months.

No doubt CC is hurting, but it's the training ban that has truly caught them with their pants down. They simply can't fix this mess without us now.

[Oldaircrew]

Slam Click

Oddly enough, you could not be more wrong. Those two are cut from the same cloth.

Our issues are very similar to yours.

You should have used a picture of Herb.

[Soul planet]

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[Speed Weasel]

379 Cancelled last night. Interesting way to run an airline! :D

[Frogman1484]

Flight yesterday morning got changed to a 340. the only problem was that the FO was only 330 qualified! Flight got delayed a few hours while they searched the network for a 340 Fo:D Great planning:ok:

[Frogman1484]

Yes did not say Syd! I think it was the Cebu flight.

[betpump5]

Er...it was specified in the title. CX101 21 Feb.

Frog posted on 25th referring to the 24th.

You Pelican

[betpump5]

Is this clown for real?

[White None]

Perhaps if we could stop duelling with grammar and get back to the matter in hand - Captains being ordered by Management to contravene AFTLs?

[Adam Nams]

Is this the 5 minute argument or the full half hour?

[Arfur Dent]

Listen - The Pelican is NEVER wrong. Got it???!!!???
Just the 5 minute argument we hope.
No we don't..........Yes we do.......����✌��️

[Soul planet]

Just side tracking...... Old news

The 49ers Story (http://www.cathaypilotsunion.org/generaldocs/The49ersStory.htm)


Cathay Offers To Rehire The 49ers - 2005

In 2005, the HKAOA elected to cease legal and welfare funding for any 49er who chose not to accept "the offer" that was then available. Originally only 4 of The 49ers had wanted to accept "the offer". With the withdrawal of support by the HKAOA, they were left with few choices:
Nineteen elected to seek employment with Cathay Freighters, effectively restarting their careers at the lowest pay grade. Only 12 of the 19 were subsequently offered jobs.
Nineteen chose to continue with their fight for legal justice. Subsequently, one - Richard Bennett - died.
The remainder chose a cash settlement.

Cathay Offers To Rehire The 49ers — Civil Aviation Forum | Airliners.net (http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/1923124/)

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