Is there a cafe at Caernarfon?

[tmmorris]

Simple question but I need to type something here to keep the software happy...

If so when's it open?

[flybymike]

I haven't been in there for a few years, but I recall there being a very nice eatery only then recently opened in a relatively new building far removed from the old one in the control tower annexe.

Edit. By "far removed" I mean far better, not a long way away!

[dont overfil]

Get there early. Last time I was there on a good day there was nothing left but a bran bar!

[Pace]

It must be over ten years since I was last there but there used to be a good cafe in the airport with great breakfast selections!
If you do that run walk up to the beach it's stunning and before you fly back fly around Anglesey I did it at 200 feet over the water!
Spectacular destination coming in past Snowdonia if you come over the Welsh mountains and for a different way back route along the coast from Anglesey towards WAL


Pace

[Shaggy Sheep Driver]

Or fly round the Llyn Peninsula! Quite spectacular!

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b132/GZK6NK/LPIC1711res.jpg (http://s18.photobucket.com/user/GZK6NK/media/LPIC1711res.jpg.html)

Here's Bardsey Island off the end of Lleyn:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b132/GZK6NK/Bardseyres.jpg (http://s18.photobucket.com/user/GZK6NK/media/Bardseyres.jpg.html)

[ajojets]

Yes, I had an all day breakfast last week, first rate.

[tmmorris]

Excellent, thanks all. Anyone have a contact or at least know the opening hours?

Might drop in on Monday...

[ETOPS]

The café is very good and busy - although you will need "Welsh level 5" to order something :)

Try "frechdan bacwn"

Byddwch yn ofalus :ok:

[TCAS FAN]

Pace

An admission to breaching low flying Rules of Air Regs?

Careful you never know who is reading the thread!

[Shaggy Sheep Driver]

There's nothing illegal about flying as low as you like - I did it a lot. Just don't come closer than 500' to any person, vessel, or structure.

[Talkdownman]

TCAS, Pace is in no breach if no closer than 500ft to person, vessel, vehicle or structure. Water is none of those...until a diver surfaces... :E

Edit: Shaggy on the tape again...

[Pace]

I did stipulate over the water :ok: and if a diver surfaces on his own away from a boat out to sea I am sure he would be happy that I was low enough to see and get him rescued ;) As of course I would never overfly a boat at that altitude :E
Another amazing but longer trip is to fly the whole coast of wales down to south wales maybe land at Haverfordwest and then around the south wales coast with spectacular beaches and coastlines

Pace

[Fionn101]

Nice museum there also worth a look, and some great scenery along the coastline on the way in.
It is a quite a popular first port of call when coming in from Dublin.
Enjoy

[TCAS FAN]

Pace

I standard corrected, will fly two penalty orbits next time I get airborne!

[Talkdownman]

Rumour has it that TCAS FAN is an ex-Nats manager, if so we should be gentle with him...

[TCAS FAN]

Talkdownman

This is a rumour network, but of course all rumours do not turn out to be true!

I take it in good heart that my level of competence may have been perceived as having been low enough for NATS management. A succession of GMs still bring a smile to my face when recollecting their monumental c**k ups and how they were all swept under the carpet, before the arrival of their replacement!

I may not have an air law degree, but remain someone who NATS would be very happy to see fly off into the sunset.

[Mixed Up]

I don't keep as up to date with the regs as I should. But am I right in recalling the new EASA stuff regulates no flight below 500'? (Except t/o and landing of course)

It's a simple question - don't bite my head off!

[mrmum]

Yes, EASA SERA has a blanket not below 150m/500' with a few specified exceptions.
However the UK CAA have issued an exemption to this (and other SERA low flying stuff) in ORS4 No.1124. This keeps us where we were with the ANO rule 5, that is, as low as you think safe, but 500' slant from any person, vehicle, vessel or structure.

[Talkdownman]

EASA's is a height, CAA's is a distance.

[squidie]

I'm surprised it didn't blow away the other week...