Pilot Safety Culture Survey

[Hogg]

Posted on colleagues behalf and approved to post Survey


Make your voice heard, to inform the future regulation of our profession.
Please take just 10 minutes to contribute to this important survey.

https://lse.ut1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_6mypp9deK7A37Lv

[exeng]

Just completed your survey and hope it will help.

I think it would help if more of our professional colleagues contributed.

[bazilbutler]

This is an entirely confidential and unique opportunity for us to report our views at a time of great change for our profession. EASA rule making relies on pilot feedback and this is our chance to provide it.

Further reading can be found on the ECA website: https://www.eurocockpit.be/pages/new-survey-on-safety-culture-for-pilots

The survey closes on Feb 22nd.

[silvertate]

Safety culture? What safety culture?

I wrote to four different agencies and to their senior management, detailing a reason why aircraft flight decks burst into flames. And not one of them even replied. And as far as I can see, nothing has been done.

[Hotel Tango]

detailing a reason why aircraft flight decks burst into flames.

I'm interested in knowing which incidents you refer to where flight decks "burst into flames".

[silvertate]

I'm interested in knowing which incidents you refer to where flight decks "burst into flames".

Egyptair
Accident: Egyptair B772 at Cairo on Jul 29th 2011, cockpit fire (http://avherald.com/h?article=44078aa7/0000)
Corendon
Accident: Corendon B738 at Antalya on Oct 14th 2012, cockpit fire (http://avherald.com/h?article=457672a7)

[Data Guy]

COCKPIT ONLY. (Source Ref;‘Survey of 75 fires from June 1983 to October 29, 2015’).

BRIEFS ONLY.

For Full texts see NTSB query at Link > http://www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.aviation/month.aspxSearch by dates.
For SDRs see FAA SDR query at Link > FAA :: SDR Reporting [Service Difficulty Report Query Page] (http://av-info.faa.gov/sdrx/Query.aspx) Insert SDR # in ‘operators control field’ and run query.

6/16/10. Delta 767. Cockpit, Fire Damage to sidewall panel.Cause unknown.NTSB Accident/Incident Report # ENG10IA038.

5/16/10. United 757.Fire in cockpit at windshield terminals.Cause; loose terminals.NTSB Accident/Incident Report # ENG10IA029.

3/1/09. Comair CRJ. CL600.Fire Through Fuselage.Cause; Unknown. SDR # and Link > CA090312013The cockpit area continued to burn, resulting in an oval shaped 18 inch hole that had burned through the upper cockpit canopy area.

6/28/08. ABX freighter, 767.Fire Damage. Top crown aft of cockpit. Hull Loss (destroyed).NTSB Accident/Incident Report # DCA08MA076. Cause; short circuit in oxygen hose spring.

9/22/06. Delta 777.Fire lower corner co-pilot front window.No cause.NTSB Accident/ Incident Report # DCA06WA075.

2/28/04. Atlantic SoutheastCRJ CL600.Fire Penetrating Fuselage aft of Captain side window. No cause. SDR # and Link > ASOA200900352.

10/1/00. Continental MD-80.Fire behind jump seat. Cause; Electrical - chaffing.NTSB Accident/Incident # ATL01IA001. “The examination of the airplane disclosed a 2 by 1 1/2 inch fire-damaged hole in the left jump seat wall.”

8/8/00. AirTran DC-9-32. Fire behind Captains seat. Cause; Wire Arcing.Hull write off –destroyed. NTSB Accident/Incident # DCA00MA079. “Extensive wire damage in electrical panel behind captain’s seat and blistering of the aircraft skin."
Also seeNTSB Safety Letter Recommendation Letter # A-01-83 through –87.

[Machinbird]

Then there was Swissair 111 which ended badly.

[roulishollandais]

I canot imagine an exclusive European safety survey! European registration ? European owner ? Inside Europe flight ? European pilots ? Aso.
We already know that European Union wants to destroy UNO and ICAO.
Only a worldwide ICAO survey is able to improve really air safety.

[bazilbutler]

Hi roulishollandais,

The introduction page says that the survey is targeted at commercial pilots who fly and are based in Europe.

It aims to assess the current safety culture for pilots in Europe and to validate a safety culture tool in order to measure it reliably.

This is the first study that attempts to look at pilot safety culture across the whole of Europe. It is by far the largest survey on this topic to date and is quite an undertaking.

It is run by an independent body (The London School of Economics) so it has no ulterior agenda.


Internet forums will only achieve so much. If you're a European pilot take 10 minutes to submit your opinion for scientific judgement and exposure.

[PEI_3721]

This is not a very scientific approach. As per Roul&, there is no control over who or where the contributions come from.
Culture involves what an organisation / pilot does, not something which can be assessed with a survey. How can an open forum study equate procedural statements defining what an organisation will do (likely responses), against what actually happens in operations. The important aspect of culture is what an organisation does when no one is looking.

bazil N.B. ‘… a collaboration of the LSE, the European Commission, and EUROCONTROL” – link #3.

If this survey were to be used by EASA then help; particularly if it anything like other ‘surveys’ used in the justification of regulatory action.

[silvertate]

It is run by an independent body (The London School of Economics) so it has no ulterior agenda.

Yeah, but I contacted them last year about safety, and they refused to speak to me. They even returned my email (as if it was paper letter). Like most academic establishments, they are not interested in doing proper research, they are just interested in their promotion, stipends and making sure they get four months off a year. Tick a few boxes, write a nebulous report, and kerrrchingg at the bank.

Anyone else notice that this questionnaire was not designed by pilots or engineers? If you are not asking the right questions, the survey is worse than useless. And this one was pretty useless as useless go - ambiguous questions that will result in misleading answers, and therefore result in the wrong policy proposals being made.

I had a friend once who did an investigation into Metro usage at major cities. And after six months of intensive 'research' she concluded that more people used the Metro between 07:30 and 09:00 and again between 17:00 and 18:00. Kerrrchhingggg.

Don't expect anything from the imbeciles who inhabit academia.

[attic7]

I`m with silvertate here. Academics live in a very narrow, one dimensional world. Aviation is exactly the opposite, multi-dimensional and relies on the safe interaction of scores of individuals to make every flight, a safe flight. Let`s not trivialise our industry by completing a questionaire with skewed, misleading and irrelevant questions.
Unfortunately this is now the modus operandii of Governments and Regulatory Authorities. You were consulted, so we can go ahead and do exactly what we intended to do in the first place. We commisioned a survey!!!!!!
Sorry, academics are overpaid, underworked ego`s on legs.

[roulishollandais]

I totally agree with silver state and attic7.
In appearance the modern method is to fly a sequence of designed FCOM procedures and automation could do it in low cost flights - Wealthy people will pay much to keep human pilots ! -
But in fact the pilot is at the best, drawing the interfaces of these sequences during the whole flight. And we know that we have NEVER flown two similar flights.

[bazilbutler]

Waking up to fatigue: Pilots are too often flying when tired | The Economist (http://www.economist.com/blogs/gulliver/2016/12/waking-up-fatigue)

[Nemrytter]

Yeah, but I contacted them last year about safety, and they refused to speak to me.Perhaps it was your awful attitude that put them off.