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artax
18th Jan 2016, 15:45
I'm trying to gather some of those snappy little catchphrases that instructors use to get the point across. People remember these little rhymes and respond to them more positively than they do to long-winded explanations:

"Doing a small amount of repair work early on may be help to avoid substantial remedial effort at a later date"

is boring and forgettable, but

"A stitch in time saves nine"

is far more likely to be believed and retained.

So for rudder input after an engine failure we might say "Squeeze and freeze"

or for setting QNH: "From high to low, beware below"

It would be good for all of us to share these morsels of instructional goodness, so what have you got?

Big Pistons Forever
18th Jan 2016, 21:57
" Squeeze and Freeze " :rolleyes: Really ? How about " learn to use the rudder by looking out the windshield and noting what the nose is doing "

I don't think flight training needs anymore mindlessly applied cute sayings, mnemonics, one size fits all "rules " etc etc.

Whopity
19th Jan 2016, 08:14
When in Dowt do Nowt!

Parson
19th Jan 2016, 09:06
BPF - the problem with looking out at the nose is that often an engine failure in a twin is given under IR training and hence the stud is behind screens. I always used to use 'Dead leg, dead engine'.

But I agree with your general point that too many 'sayings' can obscure the picture.

One that that I remember from training 'Fly the aeroplane......!' So "aviate-navigate-communicate" always a good one to keep in mind.

artax
19th Jan 2016, 13:26
I'm teaching people to fly heavy jet transport aircraft. The rudder is powerful, but the aircraft has much inertia. This tends to lead to over-controlling by newer pilots in the early stages. A lot of training happens in the sim with poor visibility conditions. I can explain all of this in long flowing sentences, then sum it up with "squeeze and freeze" as a handy reminder.

"Aviate, navigate, communicate" will always be a firm favourite.

TangoAlphaD, I like it.

artax
19th Jan 2016, 13:27
Good one Whopity! Applies almost everywhere.

Big Pistons Forever
19th Jan 2016, 20:16
Artax

I apologize for what in retrospect was an unnecessarily rude post. I assumed you were talking about engine failures in SEP's during ab initio training, not heavy jet transports.

If you want sayings how about " wind the clock "

As when something bad happens mentally lean forward and give the pretend mechanical clock that real airplanes used to have (Big Pistons Forever ! ) a few twists. The idea is that very few emergencies require instant action and a pause to " wind the clock " before doing anything, instead of leaping into action at the first sign of the problem, can result in a far better outcome.

Pull what
20th Jan 2016, 00:40
When in doubt do nowt??????????????????


You shoudnt be anywhere near any aircraft, especially a heavy jet transport aircraft if you think that is a sensible solution

artax
20th Jan 2016, 03:31
Grown-up apology happily accepted. I should have made myself more clear. I like "wind the clock"; it's going on the list!

Artax

I apologize for what in retrospect was an unnecessarily rude post. I assumed you were talking about engine failures in SEP's during ab initio training, not heavy jet transports.

If you want sayings how about " wind the clock "

As when something bad happens mentally lean forward and give the pretend mechanical clock that real airplanes used to have (Big Pistons Forever ! ) a few twists. The idea is that very few emergencies require instant action and a pause to " wind the clock " before doing anything, instead of leaping into action at the first sign of the problem, can result in a far better outcome.

Whopity
20th Jan 2016, 08:14
You shoudnt be anywhere near any aircraft, especially a heavy jet transport aircraft if you think that is a sensible solution Interestingly, the first time I heard that was following the second C130 that was lost as the result of incorrect action.

artax
20th Jan 2016, 13:19
If the crew of AF447 had sat on their hands and thought about things for 70 seconds, 228 people wouldn't have died.

Still, Pullwhat raises an important point that these witty little aphorisms are only of use after the underlying concept has been properly understood.

condor17
25th Jan 2016, 19:09
artax, I like the squeeze and freeze , 40+ yrs ago , it was stand on the ball .
TAd , like it ; will plagiarise you this summer .
Mentally sit on your hands , or count to ten before action ... unless stall or eng failure.
Bite Size Chunks , break down the solution / actions , maybe like ATC at only 3 at a time .. Hdg , Alt , Qnh ...break ... Freq change separately ... or . BUM ...... CFF ......GGH/H .
Or as perennial as A , N , C.....
RWY behind you , Fuel in the bowser , Altitude above you . The 3 most useless aviation facts .

Hope it helps ,

rgds condor .

LlamaFarmer
25th Jan 2016, 20:02
Aviate, Navigate, Communicate

Fly the aircraft (see above)

Dead leg is a dead engine (i.e. in multis, whichever leg is doing nothing on the rudder after a failure, thats the engine thats also doing nothing)

White is height, red is dead (PAPIs)

On the right, has the right (right of way)

On the ball (step on the slip ball to get in balance)

Don't get low and slow