Cebu DEC a330 T and C

[fatbus]

Anyone have the current contract details? Thanks

[LOU2]

1. SALARY
 Experience-based Compensation Scheme (to be discussed during the interview)
 Expected Php123,500.00. base salary per calendar month
 Additional 13th month basic salary bonus pay for every completed calendar year based on the cut-off of the applicable year.
 Applicable Philippine taxes shall apply.
2. PRODUCTIVITY PAY
1- 60 hrs: 3190
61 hrs and above: 3510
2. WORK PATTERN
A roster pattern where Cebu Pacific Air shall allow the pilot to have a minimum of 8 days free of duty pro rata per calendar month.
3. ACCOMMODATION
Permanent housing/accommodation to be shouldered by the pilot applicant
4. FLIGHT HOURS
At least 35+ flight hours a month (except for A330 Capt). This can be increased to up to 100 hours a month dependent upon flight crew rostering and requirements.
5. OTHER BENEFITS
Upon Hiring
 Flight uniform and Nav Kit
 On Time Performance incentive of Php1,000 if month average >=85%
 Additional compensation for back-of-the clock flights: Php5,000 for Captain and Php2,500 for First Officers > 3 flights per month (not applicable for A330)
 Additional compensation for use of calendar days off < 8 days off per month
 Travel insurance of Php500,000 medical coverage or Php1,000,000 coverage for accidental death
 Annual profit sharing at management discretion (pro-rated based on months served)

Lou2

[fatbus]

Thanks for the info.

[Black Crow]

1. SALARY
 Experience-based Compensation Scheme (to be discussed during the interview)
 Expected Php123,500.00. base salary per calendar month
 Additional 13th month basic salary bonus pay for every completed calendar year based on the cut-off of the applicable year.
 Applicable Philippine taxes shall apply.
2. PRODUCTIVITY PAY
1- 60 hrs: 3190
61 hrs and above: 3510
2. WORK PATTERN
A roster pattern where Cebu Pacific Air shall allow the pilot to have a minimum of 8 days free of duty pro rata per calendar month.
3. ACCOMMODATION
Permanent housing/accommodation to be shouldered by the pilot applicant
4. FLIGHT HOURS
At least 35+ flight hours a month (except for A330 Capt). This can be increased to up to 100 hours a month dependent upon flight crew rostering and requirements.
5. OTHER BENEFITS
Upon Hiring
 Flight uniform and Nav Kit
 On Time Performance incentive of Php1,000 if month average >=85%
 Additional compensation for back-of-the clock flights: Php5,000 for Captain and Php2,500 for First Officers > 3 flights per month (not applicable for A330)
 Additional compensation for use of calendar days off < 8 days off per month
 Travel insurance of Php500,000 medical coverage or Php1,000,000 coverage for accidental death
 Annual profit sharing at management discretion (pro-rated based on months served)

The "Experienced Based Compensation" is a scam. The reason it's not posted, and will be "discussed in the interview" is because it's changed at will, and often. In other words, it's whatever they want it to be. and they do change.

The base pay is after training and when released to fly the line. This will take over six months. Until then, you can expect a "training allowance" of about P20,000 a month. That's it. And while you are doing "Supervised Line Flying" you WILL NOT receive hourly flight pay. P20,000 is equivalent to US $425. Try to live in Manila on that kind of pay.

Scheduling is horrific. Good luck on getting 8 days off a month. You will only get 15 days of leave a year, period.

You will not be paid for sick time.

Uniforms? Good luck on that as well. Be prepared to supply your own.

Training is abysmal. Did they mention your "training bond"? Doesn't matter if you are already typed, you will be required to sign a 3 year training bond.

Also, you will be responsible for your own work permit, which will cost between P40,000 to P60,000. And you will be responsible for all cost associated with conversion of your licences. CP pays for nothing.

Bottom line is virtually all expats have left CP, and for good reason.

[fatbus]

I was going to say . US 15k +accommodation ++ is just a starting point.

[Black Crow]

The "training" is another bad point of this company. Probably the worst in Asia.

[squarecrow]

Saw an ad by Contractair for DEC A320's.

[ZFT]

Black Crow

The "training" is another bad point of this company. Probably the worst in Asia.

In your opinion is this across all fleets?

[Black Crow]

In your opinion is this across all fleets?

Yes it is.

[nickpozz]

Hey guys, I posted on another CP thread as well. Can somebody please inbox me an actual humans email address in HR/recruitment?

[squarecrow]

Just reading the post by Black Crow regarding the Training Bond.for 3 years despite being Type rated, seriously?
So many times I hear this sort of thing from this kind of Outfit.
Good luck enforcing that financial penalty and secondly its just a scare tactic Handcuff. To me it says a lot about the Company. It seems to have migrated to the Middle East as well but at least this one is smart enough to keep it to 1 year.

[Black Crow]

It's a desperation measure because they know most pilots will bail after a short time. It's really just an indentured servitude to hold captive a pilot because of poor working conditions.

This is why you don't see such silly tactics in the west because the companies there actually make it worthwhile to work for them rather than treating employees as slaves.

[ninety one]

Recently found out CP offers local contract and leasing contract to expats? Which contract do most of the expats in CP chose?

[Black Crow]

Most expats avoid this place. The few that venture in quickly leave once they see what goes on there.

[Smokie]

I see that recently they were looking for FOs on the 330 but were looking for Captains hrs on type. Rated 330 with a 1000 hrs PIC or Not rated but Flybywire hours as 2500 PIC.... for an A330 FO gig...???? Really? :hmm:

[CaptainProp]

Parc is offering $15k + $1.5k for 330 and $12k + $1.5k for 320 for this contract so I doubt numbers quoted here are correct.

CP

[Black Crow]

Parc is offering $15k + $1.5k for 330 and $12k + $1.5k for 320 for this contract so I doubt numbers quoted here are correct.

CP

Yep, contracts pay more than local terms.

But go back and review the history on how CP treats contractors. Contract starts out OK, then CP attempts to end the contracts and says "But we'll hire you under local terms" which is a significant pay cut. I know several that had their contracts ended early, and one gent that had his contract ended within a couple of months of signing it.

Contracts are worthless at CP. Better yet, go find an ExPat that has completed his contract at CP, far and few between.

[CaptainProp]

Well thats something the pilots conserned should bring up with their contract agency then.

CP

[Capt.Tentacles]

Hi all, any latest & greatest on Cebu Pacific? QOL!!
Any info on the Skype interviews with HR & CP?! t kind of HR & Tech Questions!
Appreciate any and all info!!

[Black Crow]

Hi all, any latest & greatest on Cebu Pacific? QOL!!
Any info on the Skype interviews with HR & CP?! t kind of HR & Tech Questions!
Appreciate any and all info!!


Just do a search on this site and read. If after that you want to work where you will be lied to, be treated like crap, have the worst schedule imaginable and the worst pay in the industry, then go for it.

My advise if they hire you is to bring LOTS of money with you for the first six months to a year. And also keep enough money available to buy an airline ticket out of the country back home, you will eventually need it.