RYAN AIR EMERGENCY

[Chronus]

News coming through of Ryanair FR7622 returning to EMA after declaring emergency over English Channel. Cabin emergency chutes deployed for evac.

[captplaystation]

I see your thread has been deleted once already (not politic to report news where FR is concerned)

[DaveReidUK]

News coming through of Ryanair FR7622 returning to EMA after declaring emergency over English Channel.If he was anywhere near the English Channel enroute EGNX-EPRZ, he was lost.

[RAT 5]

News coming from where? Nothing on AV Herald. If something was so serious as to need evacuation why spend so long in the air diverting? But then again, as David Reid says, if the were en-route to Poland it was probably the N. Sea. EMA could then have been nearest suitable. Those bits of dark murky waters all look the same.

[OntimeexceptACARS]

Can't have been life or death, on FR24 he squawked 7700 over Ipswich, did a U turn and headed back to EMA. Flight was EMA-RZE so unlikely overweight landing if he needed to land anywhere quickly. SEN, NWI, even STN much nearer.

[RAT 5]

You can see the trace on flight finder. It was indeed east of Essex. Indeed STN is closer. So what was the problem? Was there an evacuation? Nothing on AV Herald, Ryanair or EMA websites. Mystery.

[Chronus]

North Sea, English Channel, Lost ?

Have look at the following link and enlighten us all withthe precise location in case anyone needs to go and find any bits.


Update emergency ryanair #fr7622 from east midlands is returning to uk. live: - scoopnest.com (http://www.scoopnest.com/user/airlivenet/626807208584589312)
Those were the days when any water between Blighty and the rest was an English Channel.

Yes Cap my posts seem to evaporate at the blink of an eye. I can see this reply blurring
already as I my single digit rush to hit the key board. I need to find another.

[Farrell]

(not politic to report news where FR is concerned)

Maybe they sponsor the color scheme…

http://www.lph2o.com/images/phocagallery/aircraft%20paint%20scheme/thumbs/phoca_thumb_l_Ryanair%20Boeing%20737-400.png

[RAT 5]

Mind you; FL270 & 400kts might, afterall, put STN a little close, especially with all the briefing & planning etc. Just depends on the nature of the problem.

[sunday8pm]

Any closer to finding out what was going on?

[befree]

Passenger plane emergency at East Midlands Airport | Leicester Mercury (http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Passenger-plane-emergency-East-Midlands-Airport/story-27516615-detail/story.html)

In Leicester Mercury but little details.

[pattern_is_full]

FlightAware shows the complete flight (matches scoopnest partial flight map linked to previously). No other information, though.

Ryanair (FR) #7622 ? FlightAware (http://flightaware.com/live/flight/RYR7622)

[MrSnuggles]

Oh dear.

I have too many jokes in my head right now.

Putting them aside, doesn't social media provide any clues? Pax nowadays are more than happy to document everything.

[Chronus]

Liked the photo by Farrell, as I knew little about this carrier and as there seems to be little news about the incident I looked it up on the web. Here is what I found:

The Meaning of Ryanair (http://www.drb.ie/essays/the-meaning-of-ryanair)

I wondered if the following from the above article is true:

As the pilots sip the water they have bought themselves and the flight attendants hurry along the aisles in the uniforms they have paid for out of their own pockets, barking curt, dismissive orders at the bewildered and the non-compliant...

So I thought maybe someone had left their water bottles behind and was having a tantrum.

By the way what is the meaning of the winged lady with boobs on the tail.

[MrSnuggles]

Chronus, you are seriously disturbing my calm by your remarks... I can feel the jokes bursting inside me, desperately wanting to be written down!

To keep things in order: the symbol on the tail is a mix between some ancient Irish (half)goddess and a music instrument called "lyra" in Swedish. I have no idea what it is called in English.

[PURPLE PITOT]

It's called a harp in both english and poikey.:O

[Una Due Tfc]

It's called a harp in both english and poikey.:O

Now now, we're not all pikeys, just like you're not all chavs

[Just a spotter]

By the way what is the meaning of the winged lady with boobs on the tail.

Just like the shamrock, the harp has been a long standing symbol of Ireland, and is still used as the official seal of the State and of the President.

The representation of a harp as a winged female figure stretched across the front and top of the instrument was for a time used as the flag of Ireland from about the 17th century. As those in the UK will know, this symbol is still used today as the representation of Northern Ireland on the Royal Standard.

I can only guess that back in the early 1990's when Ryanair changed its livery from the original "3 R's" to the first version of the current branding, it was looking for something that reflected "Irish" and could challenge it's main rival of the time Aer Lingus and its Shamrock.

:)

JAS

[Sober Lark]

The harp device logos Ryanair uses are protected trade marks and nothing to do with the Irish harp.

English Channel

Personally I prefer to use La Manche as it's a little more neutral.

[slip and turn]

The harp device logos Ryanair uses are protected trade marks and nothing to do with the Irish harp.Well that may be so, but if so, and as JAS has gone to the trouble to highlight for us, the use of the mythical Celtic goddess Erin and the harp on something Irish isn't exactly original, now is it? :p

Personally I prefer to use terms like English Channel and Irish Sea, as like Erin's harp, it offers built in clues about where we're from ;)

Anyway, returning to the main event, no further clues about what beset FR7622 this morning?

[DaveReidUK]

Anyway, returning to the main event, no further clues about what beset FR7622 this morning?One report I've seen suggested an engine failure.

It doesn't mention any evacuation - it's hard to imagine a planeload of passengers departing via the slides without a single photo of the event appearing on Twitter or Facebook. :O

[diginagain]

... it's hard to imagine a planeload of passengers departing via the slides without a single photo of the event appearing on Twitter or Facebook.Perhaps they thought it was part of the 'service'?

[Ballinthemiddle]

You can see the trace on flight finder. It was indeed east of Essex. Indeed STN is closer. So what was the problem? Was there an evacuation? Nothing on AV Herald, Ryanair or EMA websites. Mystery.
I was the captain on a Easyjet flight at the same time and heard the the Ryanair call "Mayday mayday mayday Engine Failure" we were near Idesi over the North Sea at the time.

[west lakes]

So a decision was made by the crew, possibly in conjunction with the company maintenance offices to return to EMA.
It's not as if the aircraft was incapable of that flight.

But as has been mentioned before on the site FR operates a system of having (shock horror) spare aircraft to cover this type of event, and EMA is one of the bases that has a spare (often used for training) based there and immediately available to take over the flight.

You know the sort of thing that is good for the customer.

And no this is not a wind up, it is fact and was given to me sat in the lounge of a senior pilots home!

[Mr Optimistic]

Senior pilots home? Ah so that is where they go when they're done and dusted😂

[west lakes]

Incident: Ryanair B738 near East Midlands on Jul 30th 2015, engine shut down in flight (http://avherald.com/h?article=48a5d06a&opt=0)

[Sober Lark]

A lot of fuss about nothing. In passing, the Aviation herald seems to have large holes in its data base regarding reporting of aviation incidents. This is probably based on the way they gather their information. In addition there are probably many more incidents around the world that they do not report.

[deptrai]

This is probably based on the way they gather their information.

yes, but that statement could also be rewritten as "based on how different airlines/countries share information". There are huge differences.

[rz3]

Do a Google search for the Spirit plane that caught fire at DFW on July 30. Big flames coming from the wheel, but nothing on AVHerald.

[IOS_331]

Ema has a ridiculous amount of spare Ryanair aircraft, primarily used for line trainings, type ratings, cadet training...etc. usually you'll spend two or so hours in the training centre at the back of the CAA building before heading into the crew room. Approximately four aircraft a day are used for training flights.

[CHfour]

Ema has a ridiculous amount of spare Ryanair aircraft, primarily used for line trainings, type ratings, cadet training...etc. usually you'll spend two or so hours in the training centre at the back of the CAA building before heading into the crew room. Approximately four aircraft a day are used for training flights.
There are no spare aircraft at EMA but there are usually a few at various bases. There is only 1 training aircraft and it's a 700 (EI-SEV)

[skyship007]

I presume the free 737 in Stansted is used to provide new hires with a free FAA & EASA type rating ??

Might have to use it myself, cos a lawyer associated with the UK dept of transport has offered me a free approved ATPL and TR course (No details of when or where yet), cos some chap in FCL was good enough to send me a message from their address saying they have lost all my Micro and stick records (I still have my gear, but you can't get actual licences in Blighty to obtain an EASA upgraded ticket or three if the CAA file is empty).

Any CAA lawyers care to comment in terms of who is liable, transport dept, CAA, the muppet that binned the files (Might be EASA), yours truly or the good Lord himself ??

PS: A very senior FAA chap has already investigated my case and ruled in my favour in the USA, so there might be a second case filed due to jurisdiction issues over flight time in the USA.
Also something is going on in my 6 O'clock, cos I sent my PP to the Munich US consul for a visa and they sent it back last week with a 5 year work permit 2 days after the M1 interview!
My bank manager (Legal expert) thinks cos I am registered in Germany they might offer me a position with Jerrywings, but he has a weird sense of humour, so I'm convinced he means RYA based down South.:mad:

Associated jokes from the FDH flyers bar:
"1/ I bet they find your docs in the expanded Tomato Andy file
2/ Are you his ghost?
3/ You are more likely to get a death certificate first, if you try for damages from EASA
4/ A P2 job with Jerrywings is a death certificate, as you are flying with them this week to NCE.
5/ Don't drive your tuned Renault Twingo to the interview"!