Emirates B777 collision with Hak Air B734

[SouthendFlyer]

current info from airline published below. No other details as yet

RH Wing of the aircraft came into contact with the Rudder of a Hak Air B734 on taxi out resulting in damage to both aircraft, full investigation pending. Pax disembarked and back to HOTAC for night stop pending dispersal on other EK services today.

Flight EK782/LOS-DXB (EWD/B772LR)

[SouthendFlyer]

link to picture


Pic: Emirates Plane Collides With Hak-air Plane During Take-off At Lagos Airport - Politics - Nigeria (http://www.nairaland.com/2432900/pic-emirates-plane-collides-hak-air)

[410]

I was cleared to line up in Lagos one afternoon with a B737 on about 500' finals (in clear blue skies). I don't know who squealed the loudest - me saying "Don't think so" or the pilot of the 737 saying "Nooooo!!".

[LLuCCiFeR]

Ow come on people, there are worse places to be AOG than LOS! :ok: :)

[Ampage]

"During Takeoff"

Well hardly. :ugh:

[B-HKD]

The EK -200LR was taxiing exactly where it should have been towards the runway. The HAK air was pushed back right as it was about to pass!

What else do you expect in lagos? Its not rare to see non authorized personell walking around the runways/taxiways/ramps as they try to figure out which wheelwell to hide in!

How does the old saying go?

Happiness is V1 at Lagos!

[QCM]

Happiness is not V1 nor even Vr but 400ft in Lagos...

[eagleflier]

https://twitter.com/jackflyboy/status/618381888055586817

[MTOW]

It's been a while since I visited Lagos, but I remember that armed police in a 4WD had to follow each aircraft out to the threshold for a while because gangs in pick up trucks were opening the aft cargo holds while the aircraft was taxiing and throwing the baggage out onto the taxiway, to be scooped up and thrown into vehicles, which promptly skeddadled off beyond the wire.

Wasn't it Lagos where the Lufthansa crew were robbed on the way to (or it might have been from) the crew hotel in the crew bus? The robbers took everything - including the uniforms the crew were wearing.

Not my favourite layover. I have a recollection of the main bar in the crew hotel - it was like a scene from that Nicholas Cage movie about the gun runner (the one where the AN2 is stripped down to its wheels overnight). Seth Efrican mercs (or, far more likely, wannabes trying their best to look like Seth Efrican mercs) and local hookers, all sitting in a cigarette-smoke cloud that was almost down to waist level.

[18left]

For sure airport authorities should be held liable.

Ramp congestion has often led to improperly parked aircraft in that corner of DNMM,and as a result wide bodies on that taxiway should long ago have been forbidden.Am surprised they got that far as this is quite close to the threshold,and they would have taxied quite a distance past congested ramps where the creed for most crews familiar with that taxi way was "left of centerline"

Considering the same incident occurred with virgin atlantic A340 at the same spot in recent times,i would hope EMIRATES should hold the airport/atc liable.

Bunch of trainees in ground control doesn't help either.

[Global_Global]

For sure airport authorities should be held liable.

Authorities and liable in one sentence in Nigeria??? :rolleyes:

[Less Hair]

So was that 737 moving at all? The twitter pic looks like the 777 taxied to the maximum left of the twy. Did they try to pass by the 737 parked too far out?

[Capt Groper]

I've always trained, don't believe what you hear from ATC, always be suspicious and don't trust any b... ard. Treat nearly all of Africa as non controlled airspace, do your own traffic awareness assessment and separation.

[18left]

737 was stationary.

[Naijajet]

The Aircraft is airborne on it way back to Dubai, seems it a ferry flight though..

[Less Hair]

This was at least some pretty good advertisement for the upcoming folding wingtips on the 777X.

[MTOW]

No excuse, I know, but some here might not be aware that you can't see the wingtip on a 777 from the cockpit.

[mons330]

Airplanes are usually parked on the eastbside of the Eastern taxiway, even though there is not enough space. This is why my company does not use 18L for T/O due to taxi restrictions.

[5N-OSA]

Two FirstNation Planes in Ground Collision at MMA2 ? Daily Times Nigeria Newspaper (http://dailytimes.com.ng/two-firstnation-planes-in-ground-collision-at-mma2/)
Few weeks into investigation into the causes of ground collision between Emirates aircraft and HAK Air at the Murtala Muhammed Airport 2 (MMA2), Ikeja (http://dailytimes.com.ng/tag/ikeja/), Lagos (http://dailytimes.com.ng/tag/lagos/), a similar incident has occurred at the same airport...

[Expressions]

I wouldn't prefer any aircraft if the pilot can not see the wingtip, definitely when operating from airports like Lagos. Most of the places in West Africa you are your own even when there is a marshaller

[ManaAdaSystem]

You can't open the cockpit windows on the 777?
I'm pretty sure you can see the wing tip if you stick your head out the window.

It's not difficult.

[No Fly Zone]

The pic tells us NOTHING, but the headline/caption screams, "During Take-Off." B.S. Press, again! Push back at perhaps, low-speed taxi at most. Why Do They Do This?:{:ugh:

[VNAV PATH]

Error, sorry.

[Capt. Manuvar]

Runway 18L has 2 parallel taxiways: Eastern and Western. Most wide-bodies park at the international and cargo apron which are east of 18L. Wide-bodies needing to depart 18L will use the eastern taxiway. A few years ago the eastern taxiway was closed for resurfacing. Rumour has it that the contract was awarded to a famous Oga who most likely has proceeded to use the funds acquire some choice properties := . The problem is that everything (parking stands, taxiway markings) on the western side of 18L was designed for turboprops e.g Medium jets have to steer wide of the yellow lines to park at the "GAT".
The HAK 737 should have been parked nose facing the taxiway but the genius who designed the parking stand forgot to provide a way into the stand so most aircraft in that area park nose in.
It was just a failure of several layers of safety. Unfortunately, aviation safety in this part of the world is greatly impeded by corruption, complacency and incompetence.

[ediks]

Small point of correction....... Runway 18L at DNMM has the Eastern and Central taxiways, there's no Western taxiway.

[JammedStab]

Must have been using the camera to monitor the main gear near the edge of the taxiway but I wonder how trustworthy the edges of taxiways are in a place like this. Seems risky.

Getting a marshaller somehow via company might be the best idea if things look tight.

[bvcu]

no camera on a 200LR........

[JammedStab]

no camera on a 200LR........

Even more reason not to go so close to the edge of the taxiway.