Korean MERS affected crew quarantined.

[gerago]

From Yonhap news:

SEOUL, June 18 (Yonhap) -- South Korea's top carrier Korean Air Lines Co. said Thursday that 22 of its employees were quarantined after it was confirmed they have come in contact with a flight passenger diagnosed with Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS) earlier this month.

The countermeasure against the respiratory illness came after one of the MERS patients, who had been diagnosed on Saturday, was found to have traveled on the Gimpo-Jeju Island route via Korean Air flights KE1223 and KE1238 on June 5, according to the carrier.

Eight Korean Air employees, who had come in contact with the patient at the airports, as well as 14 crew members of the affected flight were put under quarantine.

None have shown any signs of an infection so far, according to the company.

Korean Air also said it has submitted a list of some 500 other passengers who had boarded the same flights along with the patient.

MERS is a viral respiratory illness that is relatively new to humans, with the first case reported in Saudi Arabia in 2012. A total of 165 people were diagnosed with the virus in South Korea as of Thursday, with MERS-related deaths standing at 23.



Only now! How many crew had been in contact with the affected crew members! Have they contaminated the air con system at their crew despatch centers? Have they scrubbed their planes affected especially the environmental control systems?:{

[Calvin Hops]

Was at ICN recently and saw a lot of people with masks, especially Chinese and Japanese passengers. Must be an over reaction due to their SARS experience a dozen suns ago.

Heard from a former colleague still at KAL that their management made no mention of their crew being quarantined. Also not a pip squeak about the gear raising episode during landing flare! Or was it a real hair raising episode?:ugh:

[fox niner]

(Has nothing to do with MERS, but.....)

Please Calvin, enlighten us. What gear raising episode are you referring to?

[belfrybat]

Without a source (link) it never happened. A quick DuckDuckGo revealed nothing.

[haejangkuk]

fox niner (Has nothing to do with MERS, but.....)

Please Calvin, enlighten us. What gear raising episode are you referring to?


OK, at the risk of being labelled a traitor, let me weigh in on this. Actually, it happened and we pilots should not have had to hide from the truth.. The management and our CASA want to keep it under wraps because of industrial issues.


Sometime ago, a very tired co-pilot had a brain fart almost at landing flare and raised the landing gear. This incident was on PPrune but " for some very interesting and conspiratorial reasons ", the thread was removed!


Why the brain fart? He snapped out of a micro-sleep and thought they just took off! The punishing night cargo schedules were a main cause and now you know why it is under wraps.


To his credit the expat skipper reacted admirably and saved the aircraft with a quick aborted landing maneuver, waving off with a feet or so to spare. Both pilots were docked because of an " administrative misdemeanor " on their part.


The powers that be want it to be under tight wraps because it can open up a whole vat of worms. 'nuff said.


Better copy this and stash it somewhere...this post ain't gonna last long. Then when it is removed, we will know more about this great pretence we call freedom of................

[fox niner]

Haejangkuk,

Thanks for the info. If you can't report this through normal channels, try the AvHerald.
The Aviation Herald (http://www.avherald.com/h?contact=&opt=0)

In the interest of global flight safety, incidents like this must be passed on. Rgds.

[Machinbird]

He snapped out of a micro-sleep and thought they just took off! That is what happens with micro-sleep. Your situational memory is erased. You lose the "navigation plan".

The resulting confusion is probably the best personal indicator of a micro-sleep event that I have been able to identify. (And I have had lots of experience with micro-sleep :uhoh:)

[Naali]

Thanks haejangkuk for posting. It,s about time these fatigue issues will be known,and discussed openly. Public will inevitably add some salt,but it is their right,and praps even duty to demand answers. Any pilot flying max legal hours from year to year ,knows that She/He will probably never reach retirement by age. Costs of loosing invaluable experience with someone who was trained for long career,are inaccountable. So who cares,because there are no numbers to play around with?

[Geragau]

About a couple of years ago, a Canadian pilot put his jetliner into a dive after snapping out of a controlled rest.

He had mistaken a bright Venus just above the horizon for a conflicting aircraft!!!

**** happens when you are tired and worn out!

[roulishollandais]

Waking up after a suffisant rest and normal sleep doesn't bring confusion , is it what you are saying ? So the issue isn't in micro-sleep itself, but how you wake up from micro-sleep ? How/why are you waking up from unwanted sleep ?

[Machinbird]

roulishollandais,
When you wake up in bed, you usually wake up gradually and find yourself in a (somewhat) familiar location, and have time to orient yourself to the day's tasks. Microsleep is nothing like regular sleep.

When you are driving and approaching a T intersection, you have to make a choice which way to go. If I microsleep just before the intersection and become aware again I must choose which way to go with no background information in memory except that the intersection might look "familiar."

In that case, my probability of choosing the correct direction is 50% based upon actual experience. It takes me several seconds after the turn to rebuild my navigation plan. As I said, I have lots of experience with microsleep :ugh: Proper use of coffee has now enabled me to avoid microsleeping, but you have to develop a plan how to mitigate the risk.

The guy who raised the gear on short final just made the wrong choice on reawakening from microsleep. Darn easy to do.

[jolihokistix]

Solar Impulse pilot facing this now. Just taken off again.
Who, what, why: Is surviving on 20-minute naps bad for you? - BBC News (http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-32702410)

[roulishollandais]

Microsleep is nothing like regular sleep.Why is micro sleep different ? Too much need of rest ? No preparation of the body before to fall asleep ? When I want to sleep I put myself on the bed and get immediately asleeped. After two or three cycles of sleep I wake up very quickly, standing up and starting my day immediately, just switching my brain and body state. If I am very tired I first rest, eat, work quietly, surf on pprune, aso.So I agree that sleep is not the same as rest.
Did the pilot of Solar impulse use some drug like Soldiers with risk of wrong jugement or excess of imagination ?

[RobertS975]

How did this thread get so off topic? Here is a link to the AC flight mistaking Venus for an oncoming plane. I believe that AC changed their op procedures to allow a rest pilot 15 minutes after awakening to assume their duties.

Pilot sends plane into dive after mistaking Venus for oncoming plane - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/17/travel/canada-disoriented-pilot/)