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vandereydt
12th Jun 2015, 20:43
Hi there
has anybody got some experience with this speed canard ?
Handling? Do's and don'ts?
What to look out for ?
Where can I find a POH?
thx
Ronny

Pace
13th Jun 2015, 05:03
Hi

hoping someone responds to you as I don't have experience on this pretty canard.
I do remember reading about a test pilot flat spinning the only test machine.
He was wearing a chute and could not break the flat spin.
as it was their only machine he got out and attempted to put his weight on the front canard to break the spin.
By then he was too low to jump and stayed with the aircraft till it came down still in a very gentle flat spin onto a beach.
So slow was the descent that he walked away and they managed to repair the aircraft

Pace

Pirke
13th Jun 2015, 09:30
Is that a true story? Sounds very remarkable...

I would be sh*tting my pants, sitting outside on the nose of a spinning aircraft seeing the ground get bigger and not being able to jump...

How did he hold on?

Pace
13th Jun 2015, 11:35
LiveLeak.com - Pilot get's plane in a flat spin, crash lands

Pirke

I am trying to find the report but remember it was a canard and flat spinned onto a beach with the test pilot walking away and the aircraft not badly damaged
will keep googling but found this amazing footage of an unrelated flat spin where the pilot only just recovered and crash landed

Pace

Art E. Fischler-Reisen
13th Jun 2015, 13:17
found this amazing footage of an unrelated flat spin where the pilot only just recovered and crash landed

That aircraft is now flying again.

YODI
13th Jun 2015, 16:32
That is a scary video

vandereydt
13th Jun 2015, 20:34
very interesting, but I still have not heard about the speed canard

Ronny

Pace
13th Jun 2015, 22:55
The Velocity testing found that, in fact, deep stall entailed very low decent rates. They very likely are not survivable on land, but they certainly are at sea since more than one person has (with the old style Velocity seat, much like the Cozy). To quote the test pilot "Amazingly, Carl says that he could stick out a hand and feel hardly any air rushing against it as the Velocity descended ever nearer the ocean of St. Augustine. Although he was wearing a 'chute, he ultimately chose to ride the airplane down... and suffered no injuries." At high speeds water is only slightly less harmful than land. They reckoned that the descent rate was from 15-20 MPH. For reference 20 MPH is about 30 fps.

Sorry guys it was a Velocity :ok: Found this reference but nothing on a detailed accident report

G-KEST
17th Jun 2015, 15:55
Many years ago I had one flight in a Speed Canard and found it very pleasant. My only problem was that on the approach you looked over the top of the canard however in the flare this totally obscured the entire airfield. So one had to shift your view to beneath the canard in order to see the runway surface in the hold off prior to touchdown.

Trapper 69 :hmm:

Cusco
17th Jun 2015, 18:55
THat video above wasn't a canard in the spin but IIRC a Tipsy Nipper.

I remember it well as just before the spin stops the Pilot says 'well, this is it Neil' and manages to stop the spin and deadstick it on.

AAIB report linked here (https://www.gov.uk/aaib-reports/tipsy-nipper-t-66-series-3-nipper-g-oncs-13-august-2007)

Cusco

V12
17th Jun 2015, 22:17
The International Test Pilots School at Cranfield had one in the 1990s. G-FLUG.

I did one quick sortie in it and it was a delight to fly. Unbelievably responsive, fast, clean, quiet (with pusher prop) and superb viz all round. Having flown 1,000 flights in 150 different types, the Speed Canard SC01 would be the one to repeat if I could only have just one more.

The only problem was that she didn't slow down on finals so I kept ending up high, and a touch of throttle and she was away.

There's one based in Berne, Switzerland (HB-UCV) that I have seen flying low around the Bernese Oberland mountains. Owner knows what he is doing with it. See YouTube: http://youtu.be/o-Jz3m2XBOg

Am extremely jealous. Email me if you get one!

brauman
28th Jun 2015, 16:09
Hello Ronny,

I own a 116 PS speed canard. Handling is the same as the 160 PS canard.

Flying is quite fun. Takeoff speed is 80 kts - Approach speed is 80 kts.

You fly the plane down to the ground and then it sets itself - once it reaches ground effect.

I can send you a POH from a 160 PS canard if it helps.

I also have the forum Home (http://www.speedcanard.de) - there are about 20 speed canard owners registered. In September we have a meeting in ETHN - Niederstetten.

Hope the info helps

Claus

vandereydt
3rd Jul 2015, 23:01
what s the best option for a propeller overhaul?
It s an MTU unit

thx
Ronny

brauman
5th Jul 2015, 15:47
Hello Ronny,

the best option is to send it to MT

Welcome to MT-Propeller (http://www.mt-propeller.com/)

Claus

vandereydt
6th Jul 2015, 10:30
Thanks Claus
tried to send you a PM but that did not get through
Ca you please PM me
thx
Ronny