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Scoreboard
16th Feb 2015, 03:40
Latest missive by the almighties....we have supposedly introduced tactical sickness....

What a crock....contract compliance was retaliated by the company with punishing punitive rostering with lots of lots of reserves lots of O days, min rest 1 day in 7 bull**** etc, and its godamn winter...welcome to flu season.

Stupid people......after 3 months of these rosters trying to cover their mistakes you get what you sow....increased fatigue and with it more chance of sucumbing to any bug you know...

Heads up when there ever is an introduction of the old golf days you will know it you dumb asses.

asianeagle
16th Feb 2015, 08:51
Club polished and balls shined, ready when you are:ok:

Hugo Peroni the IV
16th Feb 2015, 08:54
Haven't played for a while; might even need a second day to get my swing back in the groove!

Yonosoy Marinero
17th Feb 2015, 14:08
Tactical corporate communication.

Synchronize
18th Feb 2015, 04:44
It appears that London and Milan were delayed until the following morning no reason given, NY was cancelled (.consolidation no doubt will be the explanation , but being days before CNY I would suspect other reasons )
The company's arrogance is coming back to bite them in the ass a Got to love Karma

The Management
18th Feb 2015, 06:54
Do you really have to advertise all this on Pprune?

Now we know who to target and add notes to their secret files. It will only take the dismissal of a couple of S/O’s to have the rest fall into line.

We will go out of our way to tarnish their name and start the destruction of their careers.

We have a much harder time when it is guerrilla warfare but thanks for the heads up.

Nothing like a group of pilot blabbermouths to let us know whom to target and for that we thank you.

To My Bonus
The Management

hyg
18th Feb 2015, 07:28
It appears that London and Milan were delayed until the following morning no reason given, NY was cancelled (.consolidation no doubt will be the explanation , but being days before CNY I would suspect other reasons )

words from the street were there were only 2 crew for each of those flights and I guess they couldn't find anyone till someone's reserve start the next morning

BillytheKid
18th Feb 2015, 14:25
Keep threatening the SO's that make nothing of a housing allowance and owe the company a training bond and then wonder why they might have a less than professional attitude.

mngmt mole
18th Feb 2015, 15:44
You can't make this stuff up. CX management have brought this debacle on themselves. No sympathy. As someone just commented, keep beating up on the SO's....the one group in the company that has NOTHING to lose. It's not as though there is much value in their career's as it is. Most of them can't even afford a social life. I think the only way this ever gets fixed is to ensure it's driven to collapse first. Do not give them an inch to breath. Remind your colleagues that it's important to all be 'professional'. Don't compromise 'safety'....if you know what I mean. Be sure to encourage your friends to 'stay professional'. :E

Max Reheat
19th Feb 2015, 01:07
To 'The Management'

"Who to Target"... "who"... not whom!

The Management
19th Feb 2015, 02:47
Is that better 4 you?

To Whom My Bonus.
The Management

ACMS
19th Feb 2015, 04:20
It's bliss having management on my ignore list, I know he's not management and only trying to wake us up a bit but still I don't need to have that drivel shoved in my face....

Numero Crunchero
19th Feb 2015, 05:23
Umm, this is embarrassingly easy maths - so easy I feel kinda stupid for putting it here.


If people are rostered for twice as many days per month of work, and their average daily sickness rate doesn't change, then the monthly sickness rate will double.

Why? Because we don't call sick on G days or O days(unutilised) or Leave

EG
Ten work days rostered - average sick rate 3 days per month, approximately 10% sickness rate(1 in 3 chance it will be a work day). Twenty days of work a month, 3 sick days per month, 20% sickness rate! Well actually it is still "10% of work days" but from the company's perspective there are twice as many sick days being taken compared with earlier!


And of course I am totally ignoring the effects of disruption, fatigue, stress - planning on a short haul ending before midnight and suddenly operating through your WOCL etc etc which would increase that monthly base rate!

This was pointed out to a previous DFO - he didn't seem to get it!

Scoreboard
19th Feb 2015, 05:31
Hmm going afte so's.....

Yeah you wont win much there......cause when you pay people peanuts then they have nothing to lose.....i point at the cabin crew as an example.....strike for cabin crew....umm yeah going to move in with parents, husband etc and have a vacation from the crap roster. Its why the FAU has it just as rough from CX managment....but stilll when the nuclear option is discussed in seriousness suddenly things happen and the company negotiates with FAU.

Plus targeting the new joiners will just advertise.....DONT GO CX. See the recruitment dilemma.....thats why the problem so's are slipped quietly away.

KRMQQ
2nd Mar 2015, 09:52
You don't need to report sick, just report "Unfit for Duty".
There's a BIG difference here - see AFTL's if you have any doubts.
They make the rosters and punish us with the disruptions.

Do what you have to do to protect your health, your family and flight safety.

cxorcist
2nd Mar 2015, 18:10
By all means, punish those SOs. That will help with recruitment and retention. The reputation is so good at CX. An endless stream of near 0 hour candidates keep flooding in.

Public, do you feel safe? You have pilots with no experience flying you across oceans at 80% the speed of sound in 200 million dollar aircraft. What seems off about that?

Btw, our seniority list grew by single digit last year. So for all those starry-eyed, spiky-haired recruits, we gained 5 pilots. What does that tell you? Who is going to fly the A350s? Sure, aircraft replacement parking jumbos and A340s, but then what? A330s on lease returned? Sold? Go to KA? Who will fly them at KA? Fuel prices are down. Does CX really want to flood the market with cheap 330s just because they don't have pilots to fly them.

Seriously, CX is farked. They are out of ideas and options. No amount of three man or RP magic fairy dust fixes this. Morale is in the toilet. Pilots either go sick multiple times a year or will just leave / retire. The market and the dollar are up.

Sorry management, but barring a global crisis, you have lost.

CPA777
3rd Mar 2015, 01:53
All the SOs on the cover of the latest CX magazine helping out in that community flight should be banned from the AOA.

including anyone that feels like doing any type of promotional activity for the company.

Sick and tired of these cadets prancing around in uniform telling everyone they are pilots.

Cocky G day workers.

betpump5
3rd Mar 2015, 05:41
How about the newly upgraded clown on Life Well Travelled. Following in the footsteps of A Day in The Life.:ugh:

Sand Man
3rd Mar 2015, 08:18
Rumour has it that CX is getting new headsets that wrap around the back of the head so that it does not mess up the spiky hair. Also the little mirrors in the cockpit will be enlarged to make grooming easier on arrival before stepping out on parade into the terminal. It probably will not be long before the duty time post fight is increased to cater for this extended grooming time.:}

Meikleour
3rd Mar 2015, 08:37
Sand Man: Reminds me of the time in the '80s when the Line Check forms had a category for " Grooming and deportment"! I kid you not!

Pucka
3rd Mar 2015, 08:59
It still says in vol A..we have to wear black shoes, and socks..I trust we are all sporting our purple, red and green best!

flyingbynight
3rd Mar 2015, 10:36
Ah to be 22 and spikey-haired! Sure beats being a balding 40-something.

ACMS
3rd Mar 2015, 11:34
Haven't you all got better things to do?

Yep, go and polish your black shoes, because at the end of the day you still have your professional pride don't you???

betpump5
3rd Mar 2015, 12:13
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LH8RU1bLLSo

Life well travelled

badairsucker
3rd Mar 2015, 13:58
That saffa is back with his video.......RC, sad little man.

monster330
3rd Mar 2015, 14:35
Life (unknown as I went straight to Mong Kok) well travelled

:yuk::yuk::yuk::yuk::yuk:

AnAmusedReader
4th Mar 2015, 03:23
It just says "and socks"; doesn't say "black socks".

AnAmusedReader
4th Mar 2015, 04:28
I suppose I had better read it sometime - wouldn't want to get into trouble over my blue socks - which go rather well with my well pressed trousers.

CPA777
4th Mar 2015, 04:29
How about black stockings?

Yonosoy Marinero
4th Mar 2015, 06:06
Do the socks need to be 100% nylon like the rest of the company-provided uniform?

cannot
4th Mar 2015, 06:22
I think the disco lights on the suitcase wheels is a brilliant idea
The company does not provide suitcases for the cockpit crew, unlike the cabin crew, so they have no say over what we use
I would do it just to get under their skin,
so next time you fly with the individual please get the address of the shop in SFO
Remember how upset they became some years back with crew using multi coloured backpacks as flight bags this would drive them nuts

joblow
4th Mar 2015, 06:26
Absolutely so they will melt on to your skin in a uniform manner along with your trousers if you should be unlucky enough to sustain a fire

Cafe City
4th Mar 2015, 09:53
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LH8RU1bLLSo

Life well travelled

"...I could almost smell Mong Kok..."

Now THAT is funny.
I can't believe they left that in.

goathead
4th Mar 2015, 10:23
Mr KA has true potential we have him set as a future DFO already he is perfect !

dogleg
4th Mar 2015, 11:16
"...I could almost smell Mong Kok..."

WTF? What happened? Did they forget to service the lavs?

ByAirMail
5th Mar 2015, 09:44
Mr KA will have to lift his act, the new Capt. RC has an inside track on him.

betpump5
5th Mar 2015, 16:45
Mr KA (a union member) has only been upgraded 5 minutes ago and is now going after publicity.

Is there anyway to get this Muppet banned from the AOA. Along with those local clowns on the front cover of The magazine.

pasa001
5th Mar 2015, 22:53
Attention whores all of them, makes me SICK!:ooh:

AQIS Boigu
6th Mar 2015, 00:20
A Small Piece of the Puzzle - Staff Stories - Cathay Pacific (http://lifewelltravelled.cathaypacific.com/en/our-travel-stories/kenneth-au/)

"I could almost smell Mong Kok..." ROFL:D:D:D

el commandante
6th Mar 2015, 00:31
While I agree that KA and RC are complete tools, I somehow can't totally agree with those spiky hair (or better, the sides shaved) kids. That I call voluntary work to help the community. It's a bit on the cheesy side, yes, but still better than those self serving bricks signing up for yet another stupid ad campaign.

crwkunt roll
6th Mar 2015, 00:41
l thought the good book says to follow MedLink’s advice if there is a difference in opinion between an on-board
medical assistant and MedLink.
Unless of course you use the "phone a friend" subCLAUSE.

Just Do It
6th Mar 2015, 01:51
Illustrates how little life and work experience these guys have! What is fueling their minds is beyond me. May be their up bringing is to blame. What ever the reason, best of luck then trying to fill that void in your life.

scavengepump
6th Mar 2015, 03:15
What has to be remembered is that all recently promoted and soon to be promoted Captains joined Cathay Pacific during the IFALPA recruitment ban in force between July 2001 and April 2003. This includes RC.
Having operated with a significant number of the individuals who joined during the ban, it has to be said they are certainly marching to the beat of their own drum, read - self centred and certainly suspect in the character department and nowhere near the usual standard of pilot in both attitude and ability recruited either side of this period. Many would not have gained employment with CX had the playing field been level with competition from the normal world wide pool of applicants.
Good luck to those junior officers who will now have to share a flight deck with these types now that they are all migrating to the left seat.....

asianeagle
6th Mar 2015, 05:12
What has to be remembered is that all recently promoted and soon to be promoted Captains joined Cathay Pacific during the IFALPA recruitment ban in force between July 2001 and April 2003. This includes RC.

ummmm WRONG!!!!

you got those dates slightly wrong by about a year, we didn't join during the ban and that includes RC :} (don't get me wrong, I'm not defending him either:=)

but hey, why let the facts cloud a good rant:ugh:

katana
6th Mar 2015, 06:54
Wrong!!!!!!

Cadet Entry Pilots were exempt from the recruitment ban.

XFR8
6th Mar 2015, 09:50
AsianTurkey, the Ban dates quoted above are accurate. We have many people in our midst who joined during the ban. The Seniority list reveals all.

asianeagle
6th Mar 2015, 16:08
WRONG!!!

my join date is within that quoted date band.
the 'ban' wasn't in place yet.
in fact the main reason for the ban (49'ers) only happened in July 2001.