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TBSC
10th Mar 2015, 21:10
@freightdog


Still, the same "shady" companies were handy covering Norwegian flights earlier (during the screw-ups with the 787), keeping your company afloat, right?

truckflyer
10th Mar 2015, 21:17
Pilots lost! How did they bottle it again!

Union spin no after is a joke!!!

A and C
11th Mar 2015, 07:49
I always find it interesting to look at this forum and see the amount of uninformed opinion on this forum.

Any one who thinks that one side in a strike wins is deluding themselfs, there are only losers in a strike, the company loose money, the strikers loose money, the customers loose faith in the company and think twice about using it in the future.

So in short it is not about winning it is about who looses the least. And having been involved in more airline strikes that most on this forum I know it is those with the least involvement who make the most noise.

There have been a number of references to some in the group who have been working during the strike, those people are employed in the UK and are subject to the UK employment law, under this law strikes have to be properly constituted by balot. If this is not done the the strikers can end up on the wrong side of the law and a spell in prison is the ultimate sanction. The Norwegian unions understand that these strike conditions not having been made that those employed on UK contracts should not go on strike and made this clear.

It is only when the dust settles will it become clear who has lost the least, but for those who think that the union lost the dispute I should take time to rethink the issue, after all if you were in the management position you now know that the union can hold solid and will have learnt that with a bit more planning time they can stop the whole operation.

While all above in this post is fact I will offer one bit of personal opinion and that is the strike shows the pilots can stick together and in the next round of negotiations the management will have this in the back of there minds. The chances are that this fact alone will make another strike less likely.

truckflyer
11th Mar 2015, 09:18
Equally Norwegian will now make sure that this "current group" will become an insignificant minority if their expansion plans materializes. So any effect of a future strike will have minor effect!

somethingclever
11th Mar 2015, 11:16
I'll offer a repeat of my earlier prediction.

All the pilots in the entire Norwegian network will spend the coming three years getting organised with the expressed goal of being able to act as one if need be.

This battle in an ongoing war offered valuable practice for NPU, as well as proof that you can make a difference by staying united.

How it all goes remains to be seen but I would be weary of making definite statements.

And yes, long-term it's all going t-ts up. The definition of madness would be to start a pilot career this week. But why walk quietly into the night here and now? Make the suits work for it, every single cut-back.

Iver
11th Mar 2015, 13:05
How is the new agreement beneficial to the pilot group vs previous terms? Any improvements? Is there a more detailed list of new terms or changes?

stator vane
19th Mar 2015, 19:29
Appears that one of their agreements was to stay quiet on forums like this!

Direct Bondi
21st Mar 2015, 22:17
Appears that one of their agreements was to stay quiet on forums like this!


Yes indeed. Norwegian has already started an amount of 'witch-hunting' against persons posting unfavorable comments during the strike, including on Norwegian's own Red Snout, staff webpage.

Rumor has it that one chirpy chappy has already been fired by Norwegian for treachery - any info on that ?

McBruce
22nd Mar 2015, 03:35
What was the agreement to end the strike? Are the core pilots being split over various other service companies?