EIR - Approved Schools

[The Hat]

I'm planning on doing the EIR (distance learning) but the problem is finding a school who has been approved in the UK. I have sent an email to the CAA but I would rather not wait the 18 working days for a reply.

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Does anyone have a clue where I could obtain this info??... As far as I can see the CAA web page ..Standards Document 31: Organisations Conducting Approved Courses of Flight and Ground Training has not been updated to include this information.

Thanks

[dirkdj]

The best place to get started is PPL/IR Europe - Home (http://www.pplir.org).

[hegemon88]

Dear Original Poster,

I am currently aware of two schools saying they're approved: Rate One Aviation operating out of Gloucestershire and Booker Aviation operating out of Booker. I spoke to the latter over the phone and they confirmed having the ATO approval but at the same time reported substantial problems with getting their candidates put forward for an EIR test due to it all being up in the air in the CAA (examiners not ready or something like that). So I guess it's still a waiting game for now.

Regards,



/h88

[Bluebear1872]

Got this reply from GTS. They are now approved to do distance learning.
Also this link may help as well Competency Based and En-Route Instrument Rating | Padpilot (http://padpilot.eu/ibooks/competency-based/)


Part-FCL CBIR EIR COURSE
At GTS we focus on providing quality training with the emphasis on personal support.
Our study manuals are comprehensive, easy to understand and are stand alone - no
other reference material is required.
Distance learning courses are supported by an e-mail help desk and telephone support,
available both during and outside normal office hours. Consolidation courses are held at
our Bournemouth office. Class sizes are limited to 10 thus ensuring that everyone
studying with us receives the level of attention they require.
Private tuition is also available for those students who require it.
The full cost of our CBIR EIR course is £809.96 payable in 4 instalments as follows:
Module 1 distance learning £296.98
Module 1 consolidation (1 day) £108.00
Module 2 distance learning £296.98
Module 2 consolidation (1 day) £108.00
We also offer an additional day (or part) consolidation for each module at a pro-rata
cost.
Module 1 subjects
Air Law/ Meteorology/ Human Performance/ IFR Communications
Module 2 subjects
Flight Planning/ Instruments(AGK)/ Radio Navigation
If you would like to know more about our courses or the examination/licensing
procedures please get in touch either by telephone or email and we will be pleased to
help.
We can be contacted at:
Ground Training Services Limited
Building 420, Aviation Park West,
Bournemouth Airport, Christchurch, Dorset. BH23 6NW
Phone +44(0) 1202 580809
Email: [email protected]
www.gtserv.co.uk (http://www.gtserv.co.uk)

[The Hat]

Many thanks for the above. The only additional information that I can share is that I managed to find out that CAT is also approved for doing the ground school in Cranfield aswell.

[dypen]

Have any of you experience with "Caledonian Advanced Pilot Training" and their CBIR course materials and teaching programs?


"We are now also approved for the EIR/CBIR, which allows a more flexible training route. It requires 80 hours of study with 8 hours in the classroom (which we do over 2 days). The cost is £495, which includes the time in the classroom and the colour printed notes. If you take your flying training with Rate One Aviation and do their whole course, your fees will be discounted by them."


Caledonian Advanced Pilot Training - Instrument Rating (http://www.captonline.com/instrument_rating.html)

[Cusco]

Many thanks for the above. The only additional information that I can share is that I managed to find out that CAT is also approved for doing the ground school in Cranfield aswell.

I think you'll find that CAT (despite their name) left Cranfield about five years ago and are now based in Luton.

Cusco

[banditb6]

Is this the new IMC rating or seperate to the IMC? I was under the impression if you do the IMC rating (in the UK obviously) that when you apply for the rating on your licence it appears as Enroute IR?

[stevelup]

The EIR is nothing to do with the IR(R) which is the new name for the IMC Rating.

Very broadly speaking, you've got:-

IR(R) - UK only. No class A. En-route and approaches allowed. Reduced minima. The old IMCR

EIR - En-route only - no approaches

IR - En-route and Approaches

[Pirke]

What are the aircraft requirements for flying IFR in EASA world? I can find a lot on the pilot ratings, but can't seem to find anything on the aircraft except "certified for IFR"...

[150 Driver]

Pirke,

The answer for aircraft certification and equipment is in the ANO
The Air Navigation Order 2005 (http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2005/1970/schedule/4/made)

There should also I believe be a clue on a placard inside the plane saying something like 'certified for VFR / IFR / IFR Night' (as appropriate)

[stevelup]

Depends what you mean by IFR flight.

If you just mean hand flying in IMC and doing some kind of procedural approach, then in the UK all you need is an altimeter and a turn / slip indicator or an AI and DI.

If you mean airways flight in CAS then realistically you need to be RNAV5 capable which to all intents and purposes requires a GPS or something like the KNS80 (but that's a bit of a joke really - especially as more and more VORs get shut down).

There are loads of other requirements for airways flight such as dual altimeters and 8.33 radio.

[BillieBob]

The answer for aircraft certification and equipment is in the ANONot so, the ANO has no validity in the Netherlands from where the question was posed. In any case, the question was "in EASA world[sic]", in which case the answer is the Air Ops Regulation; either Part-CAT for commercial air transport or Part-NCO/NCC for non-commercial ops. Although none of these is yet law in the UK, they are in some other member states.

[Pirke]

My question was indeed intended for the enroute IMC part for the hobby GA pilot who simply wants to climb to the nice weather when going somewhere (assuming cloud base at destination is high enough for regular VFR approach).

I do like the ability to get a limited IR (EIR) without needing to commit to all other aspects involved with a full IR and was simply wondering what the aircraft requirements were.

When I'm home I'll go search with the above tips on where to search, thanks :)