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Euclidessn
24th Aug 2014, 11:22
Hello... I'm a copilot in an airline and Several times I hear about passenger that get scary out when captain says "we've got a technical problem with the aircraft and we need to land".

I would like to know, in your country or airlines, how is the best way, what are the best words or sentences to say to the passengers about any problem we have with the airplane when we need to land or return, or even divert, but without say exactlly what is the problem (engine failure, apu fire, flaps problem, etc) to prevent passengers get scary??

mad_jock
24th Aug 2014, 12:45
its a no win situation, doesn't matter what you do someone won't like it.

777boeings
24th Aug 2014, 13:18
Personally I think it's ok to mention a "technical problem" as a generic phrase but try to stay away from words such as Hydraulics, Engine Failure, pressurisation etc etc. And when it comes to weather, I try to avoid terms like thunderstorms, windshear, tropical storms, cross winds or anything else that might spook the pax.
Easier said than done sometimes but my opinion is that it's a case of a little knowledge is a dangerous thing when it comes to how much the pax should know.

Capetonian
24th Aug 2014, 13:31
I was asked to run a 'team building' (yeah I know, useless but can be fun ....) exercise once for a company I worked for. The dozen or so participants were not pilots, but all involved in the airline industry. The task everyone was given was :

You are the captain of a large commercial aircraft flying from Cape Town to London with 300 passengers on board. In the small hours of the morning, over northern Nigeria, a warning light tells you of an imminent failure in the fuel supply from a wing tank. This means that should the supply from that tank become restricted, you won't have enough fuel to get to your destination nor to return to your departure point.
You need to make a decision as to the best course of action and make an appropriate announcement to the passengers. For the purpose of this exercise, you can assume that you can safely land your aircraft, and fly it out again, from any airport on or close to your flight path.

I have the transcripts on my laptop ........ they varied from :

"We're going to run out of fuel if we don't do an emergency landing so we will be landing soon to have the problem fixed." (hopefully this person was not really taking it very seriously!)

to :

"A warning light has indicated a possible malfunction in one of our multiple fuel systems. This is most likely a false alarm but is one of those things where we take no chances. In the unlikely event that it does fail, the back up systems would allow us to continue flying safely for several hours, but we've contacted the airport authorities in Kano and have arranged for a ground check to take place when we land there in about 20 minutes from now. No cause for alarm, I'll keep you informed and meantime I'm handing you over to the cabin crew for the normal pre-landing procedures. My apologies for the disturbance to your rest, and we'll be on our way to London again as soon as possible. Thank you."

That last one was from a female member of my team who ended up in a very senior customer facing position for a major carrier.

aditya104
24th Aug 2014, 16:08
"A warning light has indicated a possible malfunction in one of our multiple fuel systems. This is most likely a false alarm but is one of those things where we take no chances. In the unlikely event that it does fail, the back up systems would allow us to continue flying safely for several hours, but we've contacted the airport authorities in Kano and have arranged for a ground check to take place when we land there in about 20 minutes from now. No cause for alarm, I'll keep you informed and meantime I'm handing you over to the cabin crew for the normal pre-landing procedures. My apologies for the disturbance to your rest, and we'll be on our way to London again as soon as possible. Thank you."

That had a soothing and calming effect on me as I imagined myself listening to this passenger briefing. The member who wrote this rightly deserved what she achieved. Thanks for digging and sharing the transcripts. :)

Capetonian
24th Aug 2014, 16:16
What I liked about it was that it was decisive and positive, indicating that a decision had been taken and the resultant action was under way. Nothing about 'we're waiting for instructions from London' or 'we have to decide what's best'. It sounded calm and competent. Just hit the right notes for me anyway. Some of the others rambled on with unnecessary detail and other options.

Euclidessn
24th Aug 2014, 17:26
Hey Capetonian

You sad that you have others responses in your computer. If you want, you could post that here for me. I love to se as much exemples as possible.

fireflybob
24th Aug 2014, 19:42
"we've got a technical problem with the aircraft and we need to land"

I would always avoid the word "problem" when talking to passengers!

Capetonian
24th Aug 2014, 21:02
It's a bit of a mission to be honest as they were taped on a dictaphone and I had them converted to audio files by one of the geeks, so I had to type these two as I listened to them.

glendalegoon
24th Aug 2014, 22:48
I'm your captain and I would like your attention please. Someone is giving me 200thousand dollars to land at cleveland instead of pittsburgh. I'll tell you why when we get on the ground. BELIEVE ME, nothing bad, and the only thing I'm worried about is doing the paperwork.

I'll fill you in on the ground in Cleveland.

BARKINGMAD
26th Aug 2014, 18:00
"WE'RE ALL DOOMED" in a rich scottish accent as per Private Fraser iin the sitcom "Dads'Army".

That usually gets them all listening.......... :{

wrmiles
26th Aug 2014, 21:47
From a Farside cartoon:


"The fuel lights on; we're all going to die."


"Oops, thats the intercom light."

Flying Bull
29th Aug 2014, 19:07
Hi,
why bother to tell why?

Just say, We´re sorry, that today we can´t deliver you to your destination in time.
We have to do an intermediate Landing at...... and our airline will do everything, to make you stop as convinient as possible.

(may be you can insert also - for unseen circumstances)

Euclidessn
30th Aug 2014, 11:15
Thanks for everybody... I am very close to became a captain in my company and so this topic will always be opened for more and more exemples.... Please.

Capot
30th Aug 2014, 12:29
Captain's speech for passengers with technical problemsBest to weed them out at the gate, in my view. No need to speak to them, if you do that.


I know, sorry, I'll leave now. Cape's speech is the best.

keith williams
30th Aug 2014, 13:53
“OOOPS”

“Oh god what have you done”?

“Mumble mumble mumble”.

“We’d better land immediately…don’t tell the passengers”.

“And for god’s sake turn off the intercom”.

That will certainly get their seats into the upright position.

fantom
30th Aug 2014, 16:30
Just say: 'Ladies and Gentlemen, there is no need to panic'.

oceancrosser
1st Sep 2014, 13:37
Passengers with technical problems?

I think Capot was the only one who got it :D

FougaMagister
2nd Sep 2014, 09:25
A few years ago, my brother was passenger on a Thai 737 flight from BKK. Take-off aborted. Captain's "speech" in obviously limited English: "sorry - engine problem!" He then immediately taxies the aircraft back to the threshold and promptly takes off again! Bottom line: my brother decided then he would never fly Thai again. And he is definitely NOT a scared passenger...

I'm so glad I fly cargo...

Cheers :cool:

777boeings
3rd Sep 2014, 04:25
Capetonian,
The examples you have provided are all excellent but only when the passengers are predominantly english speakers.
Unfortunately the majority of my pax have level 1-4 english only. In this scenario, even the word "fuel" can easily be taken out of context.
I'm not trying to pick holes in your excellent post, just pointing out that a good announcement shouldn't be based solely on how we sound to each other.

Capetonian
3rd Sep 2014, 06:15
Yes, you're right, there was an automatic assumption in my scenario that all on board would be native level English speakers. Under real circumstances, that would be unlikely, even on a flight between ZA and GB. Good point!

Euclidessn
5th Sep 2014, 01:33
By the way.... I am ICAO level 4.

Tarq57
5th Sep 2014, 08:02
A few years ago, a 738 had a fan disk disintegrate. (It was contained, IIRC.)

The PA from the FO went something like this. "Ladies and gentlemen, unfortunately we've experienced a catastrophic failure of the right engine, and need to return to (departure point)...."

Spoken with later, none of the passengers remembered anything that was said after the words "catastrophic failure".

Technically spot on, though. :E

BARKINGMAD
9th Sep 2014, 18:04
Many years ago, the Dan-Air ops manual recommended avoiding the use of words such as "fog", as all passengers know planes crash in fog. Similarly "turbulence" was a no-no, as all pax know etc
"Thunderstorm" was also off the menu, as all pax etc.

Imagine you are Mr Scared in seat row 33d, what would you NOT want to hear?

If the wing has broken off, or an engine has shed obvious bits, then don't try to lie, but otherwise try and play down whichever disaster has or is about to ruin everyones day.

Speak as clearly, slowly and as confidently as you can manage, don't want the SLF panicking once the lift spoilers are up on the runway?!?!

Euclidessn
21st Sep 2014, 00:02
Reading every think that all of you wrote, I think my speech could be:

"Hello everyone, is the captain speaking.... due to technical reasons we are unable to proceed to our destination at this time, so we need to return to the airport and the estimate time to arrive will be in about 15 minutes. The company will provide more informations for all of you and about the continuation of your trip upon landing. We appologize about this inconvenience, thank you for your attention."

Rubber Dog
21st Sep 2014, 05:03
If it was an obvious "bang" or something, I would use
"Some of you may have noticed we have had a (slight) malfunction. This means we will not be able to continue to XXX and will be returning/diverting...etc"

Euclidessn
21st Sep 2014, 08:59
Perfect... Great!!!!

alexious85
26th Sep 2014, 10:52
Can any one please direct me to a place in the internet were I can find PA announcements done in specific emergency / abnormal situations ?
The element I'm looking at , is announcements that are crafted in a way that do not panic the passengers but do not tell them complete lies .
I did quite a bit of search with no results

Amadis of Gaul
27th Sep 2014, 11:33
Do another bit of search, surely you'll find something. It's not like a Greek to give up so easily.

Nicholas49
11th Oct 2014, 16:56
I think the first 35 seconds of this clip (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK5SzV4OBF0) are a pretty damn good demonstration of how to handle such a situation, don't you think ? :ok:

Ka6crpe
11th Oct 2014, 17:30
Many SLF's are also knowledgeble about flying. Be honest and say exactly what the issue is and what your decision as pilot is.
Aviate, navigate, COMMUNICATE.

pudoc
12th Oct 2014, 17:57
I find most SLF think they know a lot...but in reality...

My favourite one was a disruptive passenger telling the Captain he had no authority on the SLF side of the cockpit door! And he knew this is was true because of his "air force experience".